Somebody You Love

Prompted by a patron question, Holly & Jenna discuss where the line is between sex work and therapy, what’s appropriate to discuss with a sex worker, and how to broach the tough topics. The misconception this week is that oral sex is safe sex and for Shit People Say Jenna shares one of the more amusing (and lucrative?) interactions she’s had in a long time! 

The Satisfaction Project episode ‘Sex work or therapy?’: ​​https://open.spotify.com/episode/6oKlBqIGEJ7tqadDzHCwk0?si=MLMm21ZrQJi_W2Haii2oUQ

SHIPS: https://www.shipspsychology.com.au

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through 

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For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Unfortunately the audio for this episode is not great, we’re sorry! 

Turned On is a series in which Holly & Jenna react to different representations of sex work in media. In this episode, they are reacting to ‘Louis and the Brothel’, Louis Theroux’s 2003 documentary where he visits a Nevada brothel. 

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

 Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR):http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta):http://magenta.org.au

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Jenna is our special guest today! Holly interviews her about how she organises tours around the country. They talk about the misconception that sex workers can’t say no to particular clients and/or services. Holly shares a classic Shit People Say, and they discuss trends over time in sex work requests and services, like choking, golden showers, rimming, pegging, and cuddling! 

CHAPTERS

2:27 Main Segment: SYL is a touring escort

36:05 Misconception: That SWers can’t say no 

41:38 Shit People Say: “I’m looking for sex, not English classes”

45:11 Question of the Week: Sex work trends

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

 Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Kaytlin Bailey is a contrarian by nature and a provocateur by trade. She is an internationally touring stand-up comic, sex worker rights advocate and writer. In 2020 she founded Old Pros where she continues her stubborn crusade against whorephobia and today she is talking to Holly & Jenna about why the history of sex work matters, who her favourite old pros are, and some of the complexities of advocacy and exploitation.

Old Pros: https://oldprosonline.org/

3:11 Kaytlin’s origin story 

10:11 Money for feelings: political fundraising vs sex work 

12:44 What is Old Pros?

19:23 Why the history of sex work matters

25:27 Kaytlin’s favourite whores of yore

43:19 Adversity and diversity in advocacy 

48:53 Conversations about exploitation

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR):http://sexworkerrightswa.org

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Turned On is a new series in which Holly & Jenna react to different representations of sex work in media. For this first episode, they are reacting to Jubilee’s YouTube video ‘6 Sex Workers vs 1 Secret Virgin’ from their Odd One Out series. 

Watch the video first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKVGUfbDP2g

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

 Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR):http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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Welcome to season 3! To kick things off, Holly & Jenna are joined by Deaf full service sex worker and owner of Sydney's Sky Sirens, Katia Schwartz, her creative surrogate, Auslan qualified interpreter and sex worker Dahlia Day, and Auslan interpreter Amanda. This special episode is available in both audio and video formats, with the video including Auslan interpretation and captions, and the audio being accompanied by a transcript (see below). 

Watch the video here: https://youtu.be/Jv01cpNLzyA

Sky Sirens: https://www.skysirens.com.au/
Make It Rain: https://www.skysirens.com.au/makeitrain
Katia Schwartz: https://www.instagram.com/katiaschwartz
Dahlia Daye: https://www.instagram.com/dahliadaye

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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This week we are again bringing you an episode of Georgie Wolf’s podcast The Satisfaction Project while Holly, Mr Love, and I enjoy a break between seasons 2 and 3 of Somebody You Love. The Satisfaction Project is your ultimate resource for enjoyable experiences with escorts and other independent, hands-on sex workers.

The episode we are sharing with you today is called Everyday Activism with Holly Harte and yep, that’s our girl Holly chatting to Georgie about practical sex work activism - everyday ways that you can stand up for us. You can go to satisfactionproject.com to find a plethora of resources, and you can find the other episodes of the podcast wherever you listen to podcasts! 

We’ll be back in a few weeks with season 3 of Somebody You Love, but in the meantime we hope you enjoy The Satisfaction Project! 

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While we are taking a much needed break between seasons, we wanted to share with you some episodes from our dear friend Georgie Wolf’s podcast, The Satisfaction Project. The Satisfaction Project is your ultimate resource for enjoyable experiences with escorts and other independent, hands-on sex workers. You may remember Georgie from episode 23 - Somebody You Love is a Satisfaction Expert.

Georgie has given us permission to share the very first episode of her podcast, titled Mythbusting with Jenna Love and yep, you guessed it - it features our Jenna. Jenna and Georgie talk about a whole bunch of misconceptions around the sex industry, some of which we have also covered on Somebody You Love. You can go to satisfactionproject.com to find a plethora of resources, and you can find the other episodes of the podcast wherever you listen to podcasts!

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It’s the season 2 finale! Join us while we ponder some big questions while trying not to get canceled… why do people cheat? And why do they do it with sex workers? Do we judge our clients who are cheating? Do we take responsibility for helping to facilitate it? 

1:53 Question of the week: Why do married men seek out sex workers? 

44:43 Misconception: Most of our clients are married men

51:28 Awesome Shit People Say: “Ladies of the night”

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR): http://sexworkerrightswa.org 

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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We put a shout-out on Patreon to ask if anyone who is a client of the sex industry would like to come on the show, and thus this episode was born! Maria and Steve join us to speak candidly about their reasons for visiting sex workers, how their first experiences went, and the impact it has had on their lives. 

2:52: Maria

31:06: Steve

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Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empowering sex workers through technology: https://assemblyfour.com/

For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: 

ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/

NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/

NT (SWOP NT): https://www.ntahc.org.au/swopnt

Qld (Respect Inc): https://respectqld.org.au/

SA (SIN): http://www.sin.org.au/sindex.html

Tas (Scarlet Alliance): https://scarletalliance.org.au/links/

Vic (Vixen Collective): https://www.vixencollective.org/vc

WA (SWEAR):http://sexworkerrightswa.org

WA (Magenta): http://magenta.org.au

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