Sometimes Dead is Better

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the 1955 horror fairytale, Night of the Hunter. They discuss the rugged handsomeness of Robert Mitchum, how Lillian Gish inspired The Smashing Pumpkins and toxic masculinity.

*Note: Christin's mic messed up (she may have spilled beer on it) and there is a little static on her end, sorry!

What they've been watching: OA on Netflix and BBC's The Office

What they are drinking: Bell's Two Hearted Ale IPA (Chris) and Blueberry Acai Truly (Christin)

Movie discussion starts at: 9:46

CW: Domestic abuse, murder, child abuse

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Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Christin ties a true crime to the movie Mandy before she had even seen it! She picks a pretty spot on true crime and tells Chris and Casey the story of the drug hazed, Satanic cult murders of the Fall River Cult. 

CW: animal death, abuse, murder, cults, drug use, child abuse

Sources: 

Podcast: Cults by the Parcast network, "The Fall River Cult" - Robin Murphy and "The Fall River Cult pt. 2" - Robin Murphy

http://bloody-mess.net/2013/01/real-life-horror-the-satanic-cult-killings-of-fall-river/

http://www.carldrewsfight.com/

https://cvltnation.com/sex-satanism-sacrificial-slaughter-fall-river-cult-murders-1979-80/

https://behindtheveil07.wordpress.com/2018/07/12/the-fall-rivers-cult

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Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin venture into the Shadow of the Mountains with special guest Casey, Christin's brother. Casey picked the Nicolas Cage revenge thriller, Mandy. Do they like it? They think so? They discuss all the horror movies referenced in the film, how metal the movie is are and of course Cheddar Goblin. Rock on!

What they have been watching: I'll Be Gone in the Dark, Dave, Chernobyl

What they are drinking: Savage Cabernet Sauvignon

Movie discussion starts at: 14:23

CW: animal death, abuse, murder, cults, drug use

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Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Elise stops by again to fill in for Chris. Christin made her daughter watch a somewhat scary movie and is so proud of her. They discuss Disney movies, Motown music and 

whether there may be a horror movie fan inside of Elise after all.

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Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin get serious about domestic violence (DM) and intimate partner violence (IPV) that was depicted in The Invisible Man. First, Christin tells Chris about the scary facts of IPV, including that black females are twice as likely to be a victim of IPV. #blacklivesmatter

Christin then tells Chris about the true case of Francine Hughes that inspired the 1984 made for TV movie starring Farrah Fawcett, The Burning Bed. 

IPV and DM are never ok. You deserve better. For more information please visit:  https://www.thehotline.org/

Sources:

Blakemore, Erin. "Francine Hughes Killed Her Abusive Husband-And Changed Views on Domestic Violence". History. 21 March 2019: 

https://www.history.com/news/burning-bed-syndrome-francine-hughes-domestic-abuse

Diliberto, Gioia. "A Violent, Haunted Life". People. 8 Oct 1984:

https://people.com/archive/cover-story-a-violent-death-a-haunted-life-vol-22-no-15/

Jones, Feminista. "Why Black Women Stuggle More With Domestic Violence". Time USA, LLC. 10 Sept 2014:

https://time.com/3313343/ray-rice-black-women-domestic-violence/

Ludlow, Ester, host. Once Upon a Crime. "Episode 019: True Crime Gamechangers: Francine Hughes and the Burning Bed". 17 Nov 2016: 

https://www.stitcher.com/s?eid=64892838&autoplay=1

Maitland, Leslie. "Courts Easy on Rising Family Violence". The New York Times. 14 June 1976:

https://www.nytimes.com/1976/06/14/archives/courts-easy-on-rising-family-violence-family-violence-on-rise-is.html

Maitland, Leslie. "Hearings are Held on Battered Wives". The New York Times. 15 Oct 1976:

https://www.nytimes.com/1976/10/15/archives/hearings-are-held-on-battered-wives-city-council-committee-studies.html

Taub, Amanda. "A New Covid-19 Crisis: Domestic Abuse Rises Worldwide". The New York Times. 14 April 2020: 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/world/coronavirus-domestic-violence.html

When Men Murder Women study by The Violence Policy Center, September 2018:

https://vpc.org/studies/wmmw2019.pdf

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Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In this episode Chris and Christin discuss the pleasant surprise (wink wink) of the year, The Invisible Man. Directed by Leigh Whanell and staring the incomparable Elizabeth Moss (also some dude you barely see but is Luke from Haunting of Hill House). They discuss the intensity of Elizabeth Moss, being a leader in the field of optics and (of course) how distractingly hot James is. 

What they are watching (Christin): It Chapter 2

What they are listening to (Chris): Pearl Jam's Gigaton, Bob Dylan's Rough and Rowdy Ways and Fiona Apple's Fetch the Bolt Cutters

What they are drinking: Phantom red wine by Bogel Vineyard

CW: domestic violence, suicide

Minor spoilers for It Chapter 2 and Gone Girl

Movie discussion starts at: 12:22

Sources: Evolution of Horror podcast, "The Invisible Man (2020) With Jason Blum & Leigh Whannell, Feb 26 2020

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Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In the part 2 episode of their Candyman episode Christin digs into the history of the Cabrini-Green housing projects starting with the Federal Housing Authority's denial of housing loans to African Americans back in the 1940s. Christin goes into how the denial of allowing African Americans to build equity lead to the violent and neglected housing projects of Chicago. Then Christin tells Chris the true murder that inspired Candyman, that of Ruthie Mae McCoy. 

Sources: 

https://chicagoganghistory.com/housing-project/cabrini-green/

30 min documentary about Cabrini-Green:

https://vimeo.com/8207992

Articles by journalist Steve Borgia:

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/they-came-in-through-the-bathroom-mirror/Content?oid=871084

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/cause-of-death/Content?oid=875995

NPR interview with Richard Rothstein, author of "The Color Of Law: A Forgotten History Of How Our Government Segregated America":

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/526655831

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Chris and Christin have been separated for over three months and are finally back together to talk horror. Are they rusty? Do they forget their segments and drinking games? You bet! But they do delve deep into the 1992 classic Candyman. They talk bees, themes of race and class in the movie and the reality vs urban legend of Candyman. 

Tune in to part 2 where Christin goes into the history of federal housing projects and Cabrini-Green. Then she tells the true story of the medicine cabinet murder in a Chicago housing project. 

Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Whoops.

What they've been watching: Schitt's Creek, I Am Not Your Negro, Da 5 Bloods, Watchmen, The Leftovers

What they are drinking: Budweiser, the King of beers

Movie discussion starts at: 12:59

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Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

In part 2 of Sometimes Elise is Better: Conspiracy Theories, Christin and Elise discuss two more conspiracy theories. Christin talks about how the moon landing was faked conspiracy and Elise talks about flatearthers. They also put together that the dead Paul McCartney must be the one the flatearthers think are controlling the sun and moon! Yeet!

What they are watching: Fox and The Hound (1981), Scrubs, My Name is Earl

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Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Sources: 

Podcast: Conspiracy Theories, episodes Flat Earth Pt 1, Flat Earth Pt 2, The Moon Landing, The Moon Landing Pt. 2

https://www.history.com/news/moon-landing-fake-conspiracy-theories

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1860871_1860876_1860992,00.html

In this episode Elise steps in to fill Chris's shoes and steps in as co-host during these strange times. Elise does not watch horror movies or even action movies, so we change up the format a bit. Instead, they discuss two conspiracy theories. Elise discusses the theory that Paul McCartney of The Beatles died in 1966 and was replaced with a look a like. Then Christin talks about the strange going ons at the Denver Airport. Christin also makes her daughter look at a Hieronymus Bosch painting and Elise lets us know what the kids are up to. Stay Healthy! Yeet!

What they been watching: Youtube: Odd1sout, Somethingelseyt, Jaiden Animations, MrBeast and Tiger King documentary on Netflix, The Office

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Parade by Nctrnm http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Nctrnm/Parade_-_Single/NctrnmParade66Em

Sources: 

The Walrus was Paul: The Great Beatle Death Clues by R. Gary Patterson

https://www.amazon.com/Walrus-Was-Paul-Great-Beatle/dp/0964645211/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=the+walrus+was+paul&qid=1586308047&sr=8-2

https://www.beatlesbible.com/

https://www.1009theeagle.com/is-paul-mccartney-still-dead/

https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/denver-airport-conspiracy-theories

Podcast Conspiracy Theories, episodes The Denver Airport and The Denver Airport Pt 2