Crista M. talks about the sudden loss of her cat, Jerry, and how the veterinary industrial complex can make a terrible situation even worse. Listen for her advice on what to do when your pet is ill and how to prepare yourself for this devastating loss. 

Jerry's bracelet designer

Jerry's stained glass designer

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On this episode, Jessica Payne, thoughtfully talks to us about her and her mom’s incredible and multi-faceted story. After her mom was diagnosed with a terminal illness, then liver cancer, Jessica donated part of her liver to her. This bought her some time, but her mom died three years later. From pre-grief to full-on loss, Jessica’s story resonates with the love and self-discovery Losers like us know all too well.

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Spreading ashes for a loved one can be a really beautiful experience, and it can also be a very awkward one. Hear us (mostly Sam) detail ash spreading experiences, the ins and outs of having ashes in your home and how difficult it is to say "ash spreading."

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We talk about our memorial tattoos and all the ups, downs, cringe, love, respect and questionable heritage those pieces of art bring up.

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On this episode, we welcome our first guest, John Kammer, who discusses the loss of three close friends, the challenges of grief as a man and how all of this led him to create an AI tool to reconnect with those who have passed. Check out John's website at https://guardianaingels.ai/grief-support

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We talk feelings about celebrity deaths, who we miss most and examine why celebrity deaths hit our culture hard, but not necessarily the two of us. It's also the end of our first season! We'll be back soon, but in the meantime, share the podcast and leave us a review!

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Sam talks about all the times she's heard of people talking to her dead family members while Jamie listens in disbelief. They also talk about when "signs" of the deceased go too far.

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Jamie and Sam discuss funerals, celebrations of life, open caskets and how they'd like to be remembered.

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Jamie and Sam talk Elisabeth Kübler-Ross's stages of grief and how they're—spoiler—not supposed to be used the way we use them. We also talk other stages that researchers and writers have put forward and add our own spin.

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Show Notes:

James McBride's memoir "The Color of Water"

https://www.jamesmcbride.com/the-color-of-water/

Ione Skye's memoir "Say Everything"

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Say-Everything/Ione-Skye/9781668048269

Glamorous Trash episode on Ione Skye's memoir:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0GE9EwYhpbycDWEUjmQeAh?si=75979979bd21437a

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In this part two episode, Jamie & Sam continue to answer the question, where were you when you found out a person you love has died. Sam talks about the last times she spent with her brother, Dean, and how she found out he had died. Jamie talks about when she found out her best friend, Ryan, had died.

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Show Notes:

For the This American Life episode Jamie references at the end of the show, check out

This American Life: The Question Trap, Act Two

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/823/the-question-trap

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