Welcome to the first episode of Soul Care Conversations with Mindy Caliguire, and teammate Lacey Mason. 

Mindy and Lacey share their personal burnout stories and discuss the growing conversation around soul care, particularly the tension between "jet fuel drinkers" (high-capacity leaders) and "candle lighters" (spiritual formation people). 

Lacey, a qualitative researcher, shares her deep exhaustion and decision to earn a master's degree in spiritual formation and leadership from Friends University. 

Mindy recounts her "wakeup call" after being completely sidelined with physical neurological symptoms while church planting in Boston. The episode closes with a moment of silence and prayer.