Jeff spends some time talking with Richard Schmack about his involvement with the Jeanine Nicarico Case and Brian Dugan.

Jeff and Jia wrap up their interview with Tom McCulloch who served as Brian Dugans defense attorney where Dugan had been charged in other murders and not that of Jeanine Nicarico, even though he had confessed to her kidnapping and murder. 

Tom McCulloch served as Brian Dugans defense attorney where Dugan had been charged in other murders and not that of Jeanine Nicarico, even though he had confessed to her kidnapping and murder. Jeff and Jia discuss his interactions and experiences defending Dugan in part 1 of a 2 part interview.

John Hanlon is back with the second part of this interview to discuss his role with the Innocence Project. John was Executive Director for the Illinois Innocence Project and was part of the team that helped get Rolando Cruz exonerated from his conviction in the Nicarico Kidnapping and Murder case from 1983.

We welcome John Hanlon back to discuss his role with the Innocence Project over the next 2 episodes. John was Executive Director for the Illinois Innocence Project and was part of the team that helped get Rolando Cruz exonerated from his conviction in the Nicarico Kidnapping and Murder case from 1983.

Rolando and Jeff wrap up this 4 part interview on todays episode. We hope you have found it interesting hearing from Rolando about his ordeal with being wrongly convicted. His experience was but one part of the disturbing case of Jeanine Nicarico's kidnapping and murder.

Picking up from last weeks interview with Rolando, Jeff continues the conversation and Rolando talks about the 3rd trial he faced in the next attempt to overturn his conviction.

Jeff continues to discuss Rolandos wrongful conviction and incarceration, his time behind bars and on death row, and life after being released from this 12 and a half year long horrifying nightmare.

This is the first in a series of episodes with Rolando as Jeff and Jia discuss his wrongful conviction and incarceration, his time behind bars and on death row, and life after being released from this 12 and a half year long horrifying nightmare.

This episode wraps up our interview with John Hanlon, the attorney who stuck with Rolando Cruz through his appeals until, after 12 and a half years in prison, Rolando was eventually freed for a crime he did not commit.