For the final episode of this season, Nicole Cicognani - podcast editor at EST - meets Waltraud Heller, responsible for the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA). This conversation aims at analysing the challenges and difficulties facing CSOs, NGOs and Civil Societies in their broader sense, in a European landscape that becomes increasingly threatening to personal freedoms, and sets the tone for a better understanding of future actions and sustainable paths to ensure representation, effectiveness and protection for the crucial work of Civil Society. What will be Europe's next steps to protect its citizens' rights and freedoms?