Michael and Stephen discuss the significant influence of the Episcopal Church on national religious ceremonies in the United States, questioning why a declining denomination holds such power. They explore the implications of speaking truth to power, particularly in the context of religious leaders addressing political figures. The discussion also delves into the challenges and responsibilities of Christians in politics, emphasizing the need for integrity and authenticity. Finally, they consider potential changes to how national religious events are conducted, advocating for a more inclusive representation of diverse denominations.

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