It's time for another episode of the podcast within the podcast, where Alex and his friend Ben (Co-Host of Watching Films On The Toilet Podcast) explore all things Batman On The Big Screen.

For this episode, they are joined by Julian Caldow, the man behind the design for the Batman 89 Batmobile, Batwing, grapple gun, and the iconic 89 bat logo.

Julian shares the many stories of designing these iconic vehicles and gadgets, plus his interactions with Tim Burton. As well as sharing the stories of working on films such as: Aliens, Judge Dredd, Casino Royale and much more!

Alex and Ben also create some new segments for this episode, which are: Ask The Bat Computer, Riddle Me This Benja-MAN, and a Batman themed TOP FIVE game.

Check out Julian’s work https://www.krop.com/juliancaldow/#/

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