This week, Jemma and Kirk are joined by special guest Nick Cellini from Turtle Flip Studio. We love our indie devs and this week's episode provides an insight into how Nick and his team have developed their new game Which Way Up for the Switch. Plus we delve into Switch 2 talk as we continue counting down to next week's Direct, and give an update on our time with the lovely Xenoblade Chronicles X Definitive Edition!