I speak to Spencer about being a classicist in a post-modern world, hysteria as the baseline feeling, the longing for order and guidance, and how it manifests under a system where order is seen as fundamentally oppressive. We also speak about being gay and adjacent to the dissident right and BAP's perspective on the origin of homosexuality.

Spencer Klavan is a classicist, writer and podcast host, he is also Associate Editor at the Claremont Review of Books @ClaremontIns, Features Editor at the American Mind @theammind, and Host of the Young Heretics Show @ynghereticsshow