In this deeply honest and Spirit-filled episode of the SPIRIT School of Ministry Podcast, Pastor Bob Wilk, Pastor Liz Jones, and Jeribai Tascoe take on the topic of fear—how it manifests in our lives, how it hinders our calling, and how the love of God is the ultimate remedy. From real-life evangelism experiences to stories of breakthrough, the conversation exposes the torment of fear, whether it’s fear of rejection, fear of man, or fear of letting go of control. They distinguish between godly reverence and ungodly fear, shedding light on how religious mindsets can mask bondage. With a gentle invitation, the episode calls listeners to let the love of the Father compel them, trust in His voice, and take a leap into deeper waters of faith. Whether you’re battling fear in ministry, decision-making, or relationships, this conversation will confront lies and draw you closer to the truth of freedom in Christ.

Join Pastor Bob Wilk, Athena Low, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss the power of living with an eternal perspective. In this heartfelt conversation, they explore the lasting impact of legacy, the unseen fruit of faithfulness, and the importance of sowing into generations we may never meet. Through stories of personal sacrifice and spiritual heroes like Jenny Locke, they illustrate how eternity shapes our decisions today. You'll be reminded that God's kindness is never random—it's intentional and generational. This episode will stir your faith to live purposefully and invest in what truly lasts.

Join Pastor Bob Wilk, Athena Low, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss the power and necessity of living with an eternal perspective. Through heartfelt stories, spiritual insight, and a bit of humor, they unpack how eternity impacts the way we see ourselves, others, and the decisions we make daily. From spiritual cataract surgery to the freedom found in God's timeless forgiveness, this conversation invites listeners to step beyond natural understanding into the supernatural. They highlight the importance of repentance, faith, and dependence on the Holy Spirit to see clearly through God's lens. Whether you're feeling stuck in the moment or weighed down by time, this episode will realign your vision with eternity.

Join Pastor David Lien, Apostle Pat McDonald, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they tackle the tumultuous state of today’s world—and how Christians can be agents of peace, not division. In this engaging roundtable discussion, they explore how the gospel calls us to live differently in a culture marked by polarization, outrage, and instant reaction. Rather than falling into the world’s “divide and conquer” strategies, believers are invited to be ministers of reconciliation—anchored in the truth, moved by compassion, and led by the Holy Spirit. With wisdom drawn from scripture, personal experience, and decades of pastoral insight, the panel reflects on how to pause in the face of pressure, seek counsel, and love even those we disagree with. From political divides to personal pride, this conversation calls the Church to reclaim its role as a peacemaking, truth-speaking, people-loving force in a chaotic age.

Join Pastor David Lien, Apostle Pat McDonald, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they dive deep into the topic of godly counsel and why it’s so vital for every believer. In this engaging discussion, they explore the difference between worldly advice and the true counsel of the Lord, how to seek wisdom before crisis hits, and the importance of inviting trusted leaders into your life for guidance and accountability. From humorous examples to powerful biblical insights, they reveal why even the strongest leaders need advisors and how godly counsel can prevent disaster and bring healing and restoration—even after mistakes. Whether you’re facing challenges in marriage, business, or personal growth, this conversation offers hope, encouragement, and practical steps for walking in wisdom.

Join Pastor David, Pastor Bob, and Jeribai Tascoe as they dive into Philippians 1:6, exploring how God always completes the good work He begins in us. Even in life’s toughest moments, we can trust His plan, live with hope, and look forward to the day of Christ’s return. They share insights on Paul’s joy despite prison, how God’s work is both finished and still unfolding, and why our faith isn’t just about avoiding hell but living with purpose now. Be encouraged that your story isn’t over—God is still writing it, and His promises will come to pass.

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Jeribai Tascoe as they explore what Jesus really meant when He called us to be perfect. Far from the pressure of flawlessness or performance, this episode reveals how biblical perfection is rooted in love, mercy, and rest—not in striving. The team unpacks the difference between religious perfectionism and spiritual maturity, pointing us to the finished work of Christ and the power of living from a place of wholeness. They also address shame, guilt, and the false expectations that often distort our relationship with God. If you’ve ever wrestled with not feeling “good enough” in your faith, this conversation offers freedom, healing, and a reminder that you were made to be loved by God.

Join Pastor Bob Wilk, Pastor David Lien, and Rose Camara for a meaningful conversation on what it truly means to raise up others in the Kingdom of God. This episode explores how Jesus modeled multiplication through discipleship, the importance of pointing people to Him—not ourselves—and the heart posture needed to empower others without insecurity. The team discusses the difference between doing ministry and imparting Christ, how to lead with humility, and how to steward influence without fear. Be encouraged to see your role in God's ever-expanding Kingdom, whether you're pouring out or being poured into.

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss what it means to follow Jesus for the long haul. This episode dives into the real tensions of lifelong discipleship—how to keep your heart soft, your faith active, and your relationship with God alive after years of walking with Him. They explore how pride, disappointment, familiarity, and boredom can cause believers to settle, and why it’s vital to return to the simplicity of the gospel. Through honest conversation and personal stories, they challenge listeners to stay hungry, humble, and rooted in love. Whether you’re in your first year or your fiftieth, this episode will encourage you to press on and trust the faithfulness of Christ every step of the way.

📖 “If you are faithless, He remains faithful.” — 2 Timothy 2:13

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss what it truly means to worship in spirit and in truth. This episode breaks down the difference between praise and worship, and how real worship goes beyond music - it’s a life laid down. Discover how daily choices like forgiveness, sacrifice, and obedience become expressions of worship when they flow from a yielded heart.