Content note: animal abuse, murder, rape, sexual violence, torture, necrophilia, child molestation, drug use and misuse, cannibalism, gross details of so many things, sanism, and ableism.

Photo: Dahmer's sketch of his body altar, courtesy of Oxygen.

Even thought part one wasn't even an hour, I wanted to be rid of Dahmer as quickly as humanly fucking possible, y'all. So, part 2 is almost two hours long... but we don't have to talk about it anymore.

This episode starts right as he moves into the notorious apartment on North 25th Street. For the early stuff, make sure to listen to the first episode.

Resources

• Wiki

All the other links I said I'd include

• Study Shows Mentally Ill More Likely to Be Victims, Not Perpetrators, of Violence

• How alleged Toronto serial killer Bruce McArthur went unnoticed

Transcription

Welcome back to the Spooky Sconine podcast. This is the podcast that

Content note: animal abuse, murder, rape, sexual violence, torture, necrophilia, child molestation, drug use and misuse, cannibalism, and ableism.

Photo: Mug shot of Dahmer taken by the Milwaukee Police Department, July 1991

The Jeffrey Dahmer case is a wild ride, so it's time for the first 2-parter. Find out how Dahmer got his start. This episode goes right up until he moves into the notorious apartment on North 25th Street.

Resources

• Wiki

Transcription

Welcome to this first 2 part episode of the Spooky Sconnie podcast. This is the podcast that talks about everything that is interesting, funky, spooky, criminal, and just plain weird from the state of Wisconsin. For this episode & the next episode, we will be talking about Jeffrey Dahmer who is probably the most well known serial killer from the State of Wisconsin. And being on top of that, he is relatively recent. Um, he was still killing people when I was like four. So a lot of older millennials are very aware and, um, I think probably have memories of, um, you know, seeing information about this case on the news depending on if they were allowed to watch the news a young age. I didn't have any barriers on what I could watch, so I watched a lot. Um, a couple of content notes for these two episodes. Uh, because this is a wild case. We're going to be talking about [animal abuse], murder, rape, sexual violence, torture, necrophilia, child molestation, drug use, and misuse, cannibalism and ableism. So Woo, prepare yourself. Let's just start right in. Just do it.

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Jeffery Lionel Dahmer was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin on May 21st, 1960. He was the first of two sons to be born to Joyce, Annette Flint and Lionel Herbert Dahmer. Joyce worked as a teletype machine instructor and his father was studying at Marquette University working towards a degree in chemistry. There are conflicting reports on whether or not, uh, Dahmer had a lot of attention as a child. Some accounts say he was very doted upon, others say he was not. Um, it's really difficult to say, I think. He was described as an energetic and happy child until age four when he had to have surgery to correct a double hernia. And he seemed to go through a lot of changes after that.

He recalled his early years of family life being of extreme tension, which he noted between his parents who were constantly arguing with each other. At elementary school, he was regarded as quiet and timid. And on his first grade or report card, one teacher described him as a reserved child whom she sensed felt neglected, and she thought that this neglect stemmed from his mother's chronic health issues. And we can talk all about that on my other podcast, it's called the chronic sex podcast where I talk about a lot of things that have to do with chronic illness, disability and sexuality. So while that is not, uh - while parenting with a chronic illness is not something I've covered yet, that is definitely on the docket for that one. But needless to say, somebody can be chronically ill or disabled and still be a great parent, so let's not resort to ableism with that. Cool.

During this time, Joyce had been spending a lot of time in bed recovering from probably a flare up of a condition. Um, it's unknown or un-noted from the information I found. A lot of it seemed to suggest she was just hysterical and wanted attention and that is clearly not true. Lionel was studying so much that he was away a lot. And when h

Content note: discussion of ableism/sanism at the end, mentions of sexual violence and murder throughout (no details), general dudely creepitude

Photo of creepy letter courtesy of Radar Online (link below)

In this minisode, I discuss the updates on the Closs case that have happened in the last month. Dude sent a creepy ass letter this week, too, and now I feel like I need to shower.

Further Reading & Sources

• 'No guilt, no remorse, no empathy.' Criminal profilers say Jake Patterson case stands out

Transcript

Welcome to the second minisode in the Jayme Closs case coverage. Please go back and listen to the first one if you are not familiar with the case because it gives a lot of background and everything that has happened up until the end of January, 2019. As of February 6th, Patterson was arraigned. He waived his right to a preliminary hearing and his next arraignment date is set for March 27th that is when he is expected to formally enter a plea. He has of course already confessed to the crimes, but

Content note: discussion murder throughout, mentions of racism

Featured photo: An early photograph of Taliesin, taken during its first winter, 1911–12 by Henry Fuermann and Sons | Wisconsin Historical Society http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=83133| Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=28958581

Further Reading

• The History Channel's Version (sadly, without aliens)

• Death in a Prairie House: Frank Lloyd Wright and the Taliesin Murders by William R. R. Drennan 

Transcript

Welcome to a new episode of the Spooky Sconnie podcast, the podcast that talks about the paranormal, the criminal, and the just plain weird about the state of Wisconsin. Um, if you are already following the podcast, you may have noticed that I skipped our last episode, which means it's been about a month since I put out an episode. The week I was going to record this episode was just really, really hectic and lots of stuff happened. And then I got laryngitis and literally like sounded like a kid going through puberty and really just couldn't, um, couldn't record. I didn't want to put anyone through that. So now my voice's 90% better and uh, it's time for a new episode.

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Before I get into today's topic, um, I just did want to mention that I do have an event coming up in July. It's, - look, it's really cold and very snowy here, so I'm just thinking happy thoughts. July in Chicago is the happy thought for me right now. Um, there is a podcast festival, the true crime podcast festival, happening on July 13th. And, um, you can learn more about it if you go to their site, which is t c p f like true crime podcast festival tcpf2019.com. I am officially a registered podcast for that festival. I'm very excited to be going there. I have not quite entirely sure what that all entails. All I know is that I get to be recognized at the festival with 'designated podcaster gear.' So I dunno if that means like a table or booth or something. I Dunno. Um, I will let you know if slash when I find out, but that will again be happening in Chicago on July 13th. It's just a one day thing. Um, and you know, if you're going, let me know. Let's hang out. Uh, I may be getting some gear, like some cool, uh, bottle openers and magnets and buttons and Shit and give that away while I'm there.

If you find me, we'll have to work something fun out. Um, and I'm really excited about that. I'm really excited about that. I love Chicago. It's one of my favorite places. And honestly, if I had the money, I would just move to there. I want to move to there. Um, I'll be honest, like a large part of why wouldn't mind living there is I love the subway. I, I don't know. I don't know what's wrong with me. Um, I love like a lot of local businesses to Chicago. Like Do Rite Donuts. They make bomb gluten free donuts and like, it's like heaven. It's like heaven. I actually really even like driving in downtown

Hodag photo by Gourami Watcher - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=28838534

In this short episode, I discuss the hodag. It's a cryptid that's put Rhinelander, Wisconsin, on the map. Sadly, it's not real, but the city has embraced it in a wild way.

Further reading

• Rhinelander Area Chamber of Commerce page on the Hodag

Transcript

Welcome to another episode of the Spooky Sconnie Podcast. This week we'll be talking about a cryptid from northern Wisconsin, known as the Hodag. It is probably one of the most well known Wisconsin cryptids, but it's probably not a real thing, which is kind of sad. To understand the Hodag, we have to understand the man named Eugene shepherd who supposedly discovered this monster. He was born in 1854 in Green Bay and later moved to Rhinelander. Rhinelander is two and a half hours east and slightly north of Green Bay, so it was a fairly large move at the time. He held a ton of jobs, including a few at a logging camp. Um, Rhinelander is a pretty prime area for logging, being kind of up in the north woodsy area.

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Shepherd was a man who loved exploring and he actually named a ton of the lakes up in the area and made maps that we still use today, which is really fascinating. He also claims to have invented Paul Bunyan, but he's also well known jokester and kind of an exaggerator. So who knows? His claim to fame is the Hodag, which is a ferocious mythical beast that's a cross between a wild boar and a hungry alligator. So, supposedly in the early 1890s, Shepherd was walking in the woods just after sunset. You can just see it - picturesque it's beautiful. You just want to like take a walk with someone you love, but then he starts smelling something. There's a foul smell. There's noises in the bushes, and suddenly he comes face to face with this monstrosity with glowing eyes and terrible breath. Apparently what he saw according to the authors of Wisconsin Lore is “The animal’s back resembled that of a dinosaur, and his tail, which extended to an enormous length, had a spear-like end….The legs were short and massive and the claws were thick and curved denoting great strength…From the broad muscular mouth, sharp, glistening white teeth protruded.”

Shepherd later gathered a group of locals and they all formed a search party that allegedly killed a Hodag using dynamite, which feels like the most Wisconsin thing.

There's actually a photo of the men surrounding a hodag's charred remains in a local newspaper. A couple of years later, Shepherd apparently catches a live Hodag. He takes out on tour with him to various county fairs. Visitors would run screaming from the tent after seeing the animal suddenly move inside its cage. It's interesting how he set it up. It's very similar to how he set it up with the 1896 Oneida County Fair where the Hodag was basically the centerpiece. He would charge a dime for a peek, which, like, you were at the very far end of a dimly lit tent and then suddenly the Hodag would move and you would freak out. After that fair, Shepherd quit his job as a timber cruiser and took up one as real estate broker. He then spent his whole life promoting Rhinelander and the Hodag that made it famous. He died in 1923.

Before that, you know, people started hearing about the hodag and the Smithsonian even announced that it wanted to investigate. And that's when Shepherd finally cam

Content note: discussion of murder and kidnapping, mention of sexual violence (no details), general dudely creepitude

Welcome to the Spooky Sconnie podcast, the show that talks about the spooky, paranormal, criminal, and just plain odd Badger State. While we're known for sportsball and food, there's a lot more to learn about Wisconsin if you know where to look.

In this first minisode on the subject, I discuss the Jayme Closs case. Three months after her parents double murder and her kidnapping, Jayme was recently found. Details are still coming out about her captivity and, yesterday, her captor - Jake Thomas Patterson - was officially charged.

Further reading

• Link to Wisconsin's current missing children cases

Transcript

Welcome to the first minisode of the Spooky Sconnie Podcast, the podcast that talks about all things creepy, weird, spooky, and more in the state of Wisconsin. One of the things that I think it's very interesting about true crime is when you get the opportunity to cover a case as it unfolds when you are a podcaster or a writer or what have you, and I wanted to take time today to talk about a fairly well known kidnapping. The recently occurred here in Wisconsin and is actually reaching the trial stage and I'll talk about all the details and get you all caught up if you haven't heard about what's going on, um, since this case is going to start going to trial potentially in February. This will be, um, you know, I would imagine a longer minisode series, um,and we'll just see where it takes us. Some of the episodes might be really short, some of them may be fairly long and this one will probably be a longer one just because of, uh, getting everyone up to speed on the kidnapping of Jayme Closs and her recovery.

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At the center of this case are two, uh, locations in Wisconsin. The first is Barron, Wisconsin, which is located in the northwest of the state. Um, it's a city, so there's a town of Barron and surrounding that town is the city of Barron and is located in Barron county. This happens so much in Wisconsin specifically as wild. Uh, let's be more imaginative with names. I don't know. Anyway, there's an estimated 3,300 people in the area and it's actually closer to Lake Superior, one of the Great Lakes than it is to Madison. In fact, it's roughly 220 miles or about three and a half hours away by car from Madison versus being about an hour and 45 minutes in slightly different directions from both Minneapolis or Lake Superior.

Gordon, Wisconsin, the other city that is really being focused on in this case, is up in Douglas County. This is, at least in my eyes, the most northwestern county in the state of Wisconsin. In 2000, there were only 645 people living there permanently and that really hasn't changed 19 years later, which is weird. Anyway, um, as, as par for the course for Wisconsin, there are a lot of cabins where people come up and stay throughout the year, use for hunting, use for snow sports, use to be close to the lake because it is only about 35

Welcome to the Spooky Sconnie podcast, the show that talks about the spooky, paranormal, criminal, and just plain odd Badger State. While we're known for sportsball and food, there's a lot more to learn about Wisconsin if you know where to look.

In this episode, I cover the Pfister - a Milwaukee hotel spooky enough to scare off professional atheletes... and fancy enough to keep the pleebs like me away. We'll cover fun history, baseball, and portly gents.

Also, does this look like it's seemlessly integrated? I don't think so.

Further reading

• History on the Pfister website

The next episode should be out by January 19th.

Transcript

Hey! In case you haven't listened to the first episode, I'm Kirsten Schultz and I'm your host. We talk about everything weird and creepy and spooky and random in Wisconsin. I really love true crime and I was really kind of getting bummed that the only few things being covered in Wisconsin constantly are Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer. And while both of their stories are interesting, there's so much more to Wisconsin. So thanks for tuning in. Thanks for wanting to learn more about Wisconsin and random creepy shit.

This week I wanted to do one of the coolest places. I have never been in the state. The Pfister hotel in Milwaukee is expensive enough to scare off the average person (i.e., me) and haunted enough to scare off even professional athletes.

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Located at 424 East Wisconsin Avenue, the Pfister Hotel ope

Content note: discussion of ableism/sanism, forced medical procedures, the fucking patriarchy

Welcome to the Spooky Sconnie podcast, the show that talks about the spooky, paranormal, criminal, and just plain odd Badger State. While we're known for sportsball and food, there's a lot more to learn about Wisconsin if you know where to look.

In this first episode, I cover St. Coletta's School in Jefferson, Wisconsin, lobotomies, and the Kennedy family.

Further reading

• History according to the school

Transcript

You're listening to the Spooky Sconnie Podcast. I'm your host Kirsten Schultz. I have lived in Wisconsin for 12 years now and one of the things that always surprises me and that has pushed me to create this podcast is when we talk about odd things, creepy things, paranormal things, there are only a few things that people think about when they think about Wisconsin and usually quite frankly it's Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer, and as creepy as those two motherfuckers are, there is so much more to this state then either have them or beer or cheese or the packers. And that's really what I want to talk about on this podcast. We'll touch on things from aliens to cryptids to plain odd facts to haunted towns, to serial killers and true crime. It will be a really fun journey and I'm really excited that you're listening. I hope this is something that you'll wind up liking and subscribing to, to kind of break with the traditional podcast thing.

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Um, I do just want to list kind of my social media at the top of the show in case you want to peek around. The twitter is at SpookySconnie - that's s-p-o-o-k-y-s-c-o-n-n-i-e and our instagram is SpookySconniePodcast, so just pop the name of the podcast in there and the facebook page is also SpookySconniePodcast. So, hopefully that makes it easy for you to find. I think that's all the social media I've got set up right now. If you have creepy Sconnie stories you want to send in, you can send them in at [email protected]. And I will eventually work on doing some listeners episodes, um, with this being the first episode of the podcast and want to do something like super creepy or super terrifying. But I wanted to do something I was really interested in.

And um, as someone who lives with a number of chronic illnesses and deals with mental health issues, something that I was surprised to learn recently was that Rosemary Kennedy, lived in Wisconsin for the bulk of her life and that has to do with a place called St Coletta's in Jefferson. Jefferson is a city that's about halfway between Madison and Milwaukee. Madison is our capital, uh, and where the Wisconsin badgers reside and where I reside, and Milwaukee is probably the most well known Wisconsin city. It sits on the West Bank of Lake Michigan and um, that's where Jeffrey Dahmer played around. So... Some very different spaces as well, geographically, Milwaukee's very flat. Um, the, the glaciers back in the glacier moving era of the world, um, moved through that area pretty quickly. So there's a lot of flat land, whereas the further west you move in Wisconsin, you actually get to what is known as the driftless area where the glaciers didn't move through.

And so I'm in Madison and, west of here, we have a lot of rolling hills and things like that. Jefferson is, I would say it where it starts to get a little hilly, um, but not enough to where you're like, whew, rollercoaster on