How It Started is not how it ended. Jamie and Eliot Share their stories and motivation for changing the culture of Sports Medicine in Brenham ISD.

I was a head football coach for 20 years in Houston

We had ATs that were old school and then a series of newer ATs that really opened my eyes

I wanted to move to the model of “head and assistant” vs male and female

I have had some great experiences and some bumpy ones

Many of those belong to me as being young in my career and lacking the finesse in my conversations.

I am happy where I am but I was willing to look.

It sounds like Rudder is a situation that someone can walk into and keep the machine running.  We need someone to take care of our kids like that.

I lost the Assistant AD title, I had to commute…I was losing a lot.

Calibration

Radio

Hydration units

Water access on one of the practice fields

I got a master’s in public health and was really ready to leave.

I could not go to work every day and be happy.

I loved the AT-specific aspects of my job.

Some of those things were my mental decisions, it was my mindset.

Jamie’s resume was really outstanding

We needed a lot of help.

She really came in guarded, even stating all coaches are A**holes until proven otherwise

Physicals are starting to come in and I do not have a filing system.

We hired a second AT and I pushed for a second female.  I wanted to remove the male-female divide.

I wanted someone who already knew my personality.

We wanted physicals every year and not just odd years.

In the coaches’ meeting, Eliot stole my show.

I am protective by instinct.  I knew I needed to push the coaches so she didn’t take the blame.

“It was my job to stand on her own two feet.”

Being able to relax and trust them

Jeremy Jackson

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When is a hip flexor not a hip flexor? Dr. Rod Turner joins Dr. Layci Harrison after his presentation at the Memorial Hermann Sports Medicine Update.

One of my rules of thumb is…What is going to kill a patient?

This kid came in on crutches?

Look at other factors

It is easy to forget about the abdomen.

It is easy to palpate the abdomen.

Are they getting better?

ER docs save lives every day.

Sometimes they get tunnel vision.

If the athlete had said abdominal pain rather than hip pain the workup probably would have been different.

Communication

Need to be willing to answer the phone

Rod Turner on IG

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Jeremy Jackson

Shawn Ready – [email protected]

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Athletic Dry Needling – Save up to $100 when registering through our link.

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Meghan Allcorn has had about 9 job changes in roughly 11 years.

11 years as an AT

PRN coverage for collegiate D2 in the Michigan area, working every sport available.

My first full-time job was as an Industrial Athletic Trainer out in the Washington area.

Secondary School setting back in Michigan

PRN coverage

Detroit Metro Airport

Secondary School and community outreach working out of a health and fitness facility.

Finished PTA degree and started working in the inpatient setting

Another industrial setting and been there for 4 years. 

Survival as a single female, creating a full-time job where there was not one before.

Currently the program manager for Workfit in the automotive industry.  I now have 2 little girls and wanted a day shift job that would still have a need every day.

I was done missing my kid’s events.

Leaving the first industrial setting job – it was a first shift job and gave me so much freedom of schedule.

You get on the airplane and put one bag overhead.

The workers tag them, move them, and help the underbelly workers get them there.

They are stuck under your dining room table moving 50-pound bags for an 8-hour shift.

Personality is the top transfer tool.

Build trust and then you can accomplish a lot of things.

The skills transfer similarly.  You need to be in that position or setting to observe and improve body mechanics.

Assembly line – you have about 60 seconds to get your part, attach it, and be free.  The parts are usually behind you and need to be gathered for each assembly.

I do not know.

I love AT and what it has brought to my life, but I can not say it is definitely my final destination.

Do not be afraid to try and fail.

Every time you try something new you gain experience.

No regrets but a few missed opportunities.  All of these lead to shaping who I am.

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Joel Luedke

Tyler Triggs

Tanya Watson

Daniel Ruedeman

Kevin Joyce

Bill Coburn

Jason Robey

Meghan Allcorn

Jeremy Jackson

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Meghan Allcorn – LinkedIn

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Donate and get some swag (like Patreon but for the school)

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Athletic Dry Needling – Save up to $100 when registering through our link.

Jason Robey has experience with division 1 athletics, industrial, academic, and military Athletic Training settings.

High school

Clinical Outreach

Went back to grad school

Semi-pro sports

Physical Therapy Clinic

Independent pro baseball

Division 3 college

D1 college

Air national guard

Army

Newport Virginia Fort Eustice

I am a subject matter expert – more like a consultant

H2F – Holistic Health and Fitness

There are 6 different tests rather than the previous pushups, run, and situps

We have an entire team similar to a D1 sports program.

Mental health, nutrition, strength, 

The current AT policy in the Army is very restrictive and we are pushing those boundaries.

We have about 200 ATs and I am their advocate at the admin level.

Broad patient background

Experience

Understanding both sides of the need

I have a Ph.D. and worked as an assistant professor.

The Army has the most ATs on staff and should be about triple that over the next 7 years.

Definitely would like to stay in the military, but I want to advance to become an army civilian.

Recognizing the potential of stress as you are changing.

If you are an AT you are qualified for the position.  You do not need to be the grand wizard of AT to work in the industrial or military.

All changes are stressful and difficult.

I did not know the Army, but I did know Athletic Training.  

The companies are starting to recruit in case they get awarded the contract.

I have not seen a weight requirement but you do need to be physically fit to ride along on training events.

Each year we are going to expand the number of brigades that we provide care for.

620 ATs by 2030.

Regrets or missed opportunities

I miss the athletes and patient care

I am in a place where I need to be helping advance the profession

Each step is important

Joel Luedke

Tyler Triggs

Tanya Watson

Daniel Ruedeman

Kevin Joyce

Bill Coburn

Jason Robey

Meghan Allcorn

Jeremy Jackson

John Ciecko

Jason Robey

Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

Xothrm – Best heating pad available – Use “SMB” or email [email protected] and mention the Sports Medicine Broadcast

Donate and get some swag (like Patreon but for the school)

HOIST – No matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some money, be entered in a drawing for a second year free, and support the podcast.

Marc Pro – Use “THESMB” to recover better.

Athletic Dry Needling – Save up to $100 when registering through our link.

Bill Coburn changed settings a few times to meet certain needs in his life. Employment, advancement, family-friendly schedule. Check out his story and let him know if you have questions for him.

Ohio University in the spring of 2000

Took a job in the high school as just the AT for afternoon and afterschool job

I taught sports med for 3 years

Worked through the county for exercise science and AT

Continued to get a reduction in force or RIF

Went to grad school to get a masters in AT

Took a job at Davidson North Carolina

The change in conferences made travel unbearable.

Had my son in 2014

Returned to the high school setting

Had a 50-minute commute for about 2 years

Took a job closer to the house in Greensboro

When my second son was born I had to be available at home more.

Worked for an independent orthopedic office until they merged with EmergeOrtho.  That opened up an opportunity for me to 

Family life

Burnout at the high school

https://www.ergoscience.com/ https://www.occupro.net/ https://www.posturalrestoration.com/ https://www.functionalmovement.com/ https://www.nata.org/committee-practice-advancement 

Look for the places that are paying better and provide a better life balance.

Joel Luedke

Tyler Triggs

Tanya Watson

Daniel Ruedeman

Kevin Joyce

Bill Coburn

Jason Robey

Meghan Allcorn

Jeremy Jackson

Bill Coburn

John Ciecko

Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

Xothrm – Best heating pad available – Use “SMB” or email [email protected] and mention the Sports Medicine Broadcast

Donate and get some swag (like Patreon but for the school)

HOIST – No matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some money, be entered in a drawing for a second year free, and support the podcast.

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Athletic Dry Needling – Save up to $100 when registering through our link.

Kevin Joyce had to make some changes because he felt like a zombie.

US merchant marine academy as an intern

Elmyra college as GA for 2 years

SUNY Plattsburgh – 5 years

SUNY New Polts – Head AT

Post University in Conn – as head AT and head SC for 6 years ***huge burnout alert***

I had two young kids at home and woke up daily asking myself why I was doing this.

Got the opportunity to do DME.  It was an improvement but still a struggle

Worked clinical for 3 years in the PT clinic with a friend.

SUNY Oswego – works with a former student-athlete as the head coach.

I realized how I missed the college sports setting.

At that point, they had been without a head AT for about 8 months.

My previous spot was kinda a one horse town where everyone wanted to work with you.

At that location, it was more in a metroplex, that people were not begging to work with your team.

I did not realize what works in one place does not work in every place.

In some of our COVID meetings, I would not speak for the first 2 or 3 meetings.

USNY Oswego

A lot of the older PTs gave me the autonomy to work with the patients as I saw fit.

The newer PTs were high and mighty.

I loved working with a diverse population, but I felt most comfortable with the college-age athlete.

I enjoy the unpredictability and chaos.

I enjoy having to problem-solve with evaluations and think and adjust on the fly.

I plan to be here.

The change was what I needed at the time to reset and refocus.

I needed a challenge so I knew the DME and clinical jobs were not for me.

The need to create and improve was a driving force for me to come back to the college setting.

Fear

Am I setting myself up for failure

Will this provide for my family

We had to move back in with my 85-year-old mother to make the change.

My wife brought up the fact that I needed a change

Spoke with people in those positions

Joel Luedke

Tyler Triggs

Tanya Watson

Daniel Ruedeman

Kevin Joyce

Bill Coburn

Jason Robey

Meghan Allcorn

Jeremy Jackson

John Ciecko

Kevin Joyce

Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

Xothrm – Best heating pad available – Use “SMB” or email [email protected] and mention the Sports Medicine Broadcast

Donate and get some swag (like Patreon but for the school)

HOIST – No matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some money, be entered in a drawing for a second year free, and support the podcast.

Marc Pro – Use “THESMB” to recover better.

Athletic Dry Needling – Save up to $100 when registering through our link.

Daniel Ruedeman discussed his journey to Orthopedic Trauma with Sandy Harris of the ATCorner Podcast

Started in the clinical outreach setting

I was an intern in the traditional high school setting

Moved to Tennessee for a traditional setting for 3 years

Was awarded a Stedman Hawkins fellowship and started working an outreach job.

Long hours were wearing me out so I became an outreach manager at a small private practice

I am currently working in OrthoTrauma – 4 x 10s

No outreach responsibility

I have had opportunities to move up in the admin side but pulled back because I look forward to going to work each day.

The team physician back in Tennessee invited me to come to work in the clinic setting.

I did not see the connection with the patient like they had at the clinic

Tate Ericson came in and started running the outreach program and we started growing the program like crazy.

The history you are taking with the family and patient in the clinic is different from the one on the sidelines.

Becoming an Office Admin –

Being a stay-at-home dad I knew I needed to find something.

I applied for the office manager spot but they offered the back office manager spot.

I learned a lot about the roles and responsibilities but i missed the clinical experience.

I take pride in having the staff’s back and supporting them.

I always felt like this was missing in my AT jobs 

Finding more ways to talk to people and building bonds.

How can I provide for them?

What is the pay

Am I going to be happy

I have connections from each stop along the way and losing that connection caused me to hesitate.

Trauma was a new challenge for me.

Do your research on the demands of the job

Talk to people

Know your motivation and what you need for your fulfillment.

Making the changes taught me about myself at each step of the way.

Trust your gut

Joel Luedke

Tyler Triggs

Tanya Watson

Daniel Ruedeman

Kevin Joyce

Bill Coburn

Jason Robey

Meghan Allcorn

Jeremy Jackson

John Ciecko

Daniel Ruedeman

Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

Xothrm – Best heating pad available – Use “SMB” or email [email protected] and mention the Sports Medicine Broadcast

Donate and get some swag (like Patreon but for the school)

HOIST – No matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some money, be entered in a drawing for a second year free, and support the podcast.

Marc Pro – Use “THESMB” to recover better.

Athletic Dry Needling – Save up to $100 when registering through our link.

Started out as a College AT at Division 1 Mid Major Universities, Interned at my Alma Mater New Mexico State University for a semester, then Grad School at the University of Wyoming, My First Job was at the University of Alabama Birmingham for 2 years, then at the University of Southern Mississippi for 3 years. 

Then life got Lifey, my parents were getting older and having health problems so I needed to move back home. I was able to find a job in a Physician’s Practice and worked there for 5 years. 

When I felt that I had hit the “ceiling” and was not growing professionally I was looking to leave, and my Alma Mater was in need of an emergency hire to teach in the Athletic Training Program. I taught Full time for 2 years, then adjunct for 2 years. 

A local High School position opened up so I applied and accepted that position for a year. That high school was not a good fit, but have now been at my current High school for 4 years. 

Texas 6A High School

No intention of moving on anytime soon. 

Life 🙂 

NATA has a lot of great resources on job descriptions, committees, etc. 

For those interested in the Physician practice the Athletic Trainers in Physician Practice Society has a lot of great info and job postings https://atpps.org/ 

The physician practice setting – I wish I could have grown it.

When it was time to make the change it wasn’t hard to make that decision.

It took a while to recognize I needed a change.

Mental and physical exhaustion

The clinical setting did not provide me with the mental challenge I craved.

Find what takes priority in your life and make a career decision based on that.

Jeremy Jackson

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Joel Luedke

Tyler Triggs

Tanya Watson

Daniel Ruedeman

Kevin Joyce

Bill Coburn

Jason Robey

Meghan Allcorn

Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

Xothrm – Best heating pad available – Use “SMB” or email [email protected] and mention the Sports Medicine Broadcast

Donate and get some swag (like Patreon but for the school)

HOIST – No matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some money, be entered in a drawing for a second year free, and support the podcast.

Marc Pro – Use “THESMB” to recover better.

Athletic Dry Needling – Save up to $100 when registering through our link.

Joel Luedke

Tyler Triggs

Tanya Watson

Daniel Ruedeman

Kevin Joyce

Bill Coburn

Jason Robey

Meghan Allcorn

Jeremy Jackson

John Ciecko

Tyler Triggs – [email protected]

Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

Xothrm – Best heating pad available – Use “SMB” or email [email protected] and mention the Sports Medicine Broadcast

Donate and get some swag (like Patreon but for the school)

HOIST – No matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some money, be entered in a drawing for a second year free, and support the podcast.

Marc Pro – Use “THESMB” to recover better.

Athletic Dry Needling – Save up to $100 when registering through our link.

D1 Track and field – the pay was not great

Took the head AT spot at a D3 school that gave more money and last hours

Currently working at a local clinic

My job was the first job that was paid for directly through athletics.

With the change to MAT programs we knew we needed to take advantage of the unavailability of GA positions.

This is a loaded question.

I currently have a 1-hour each-way commute

I will hopefully look for something close to home

The clinic setting is probably where I will be for the remainder of my career.

We were losing staffing but there was no reduction in expectations.

I also had changes in my personal life – we had a kid.

I was not going to be able to fulfill those commitments and could not ask the team to pick up my slack.

It was fast-paced in the clinic.

I loved my job at the university

If we could have gotten the staffing then I likely would have stayed.

We had done so much to change and build things.

Talks with a close colleague with more years of experience were really important for me.

Do you have any regrets?

I miss daily interactions

I miss daily treatments and the rehab side of it.

I have been working to create those opportunities.

I miss the moving and shaking and trying to figure things out.

No regrets, just miss some stuff

I would not trade the time with family for the loss of those things.

Talking to people

Listen to podcasts that discuss their setting

Take some tours

I never complain about being bored, but i do not feel like i am operating at 100%.

The team has been open to options

We recently got a service agreement with tactical operation teams.

Opening up dry needling same-day appointments.

The team physician was really willing to get people in to take care of the athlete.

My current supervisor used to work for me at the university.

We are all looking out for each other and trying to make thighs happen.

Jeremy Jackson

John Ciecko

Joel Luedke

Joel Luedke

Tyler Triggs

Tanya Watson

Daniel Ruedeman

Kevin Joyce

Bill Coburn

Jason Robey

Meghan Allcorn

Frio Hydration – Superior Hydration products.

Xothrm – Best heating pad available – Use “SMB” or email [email protected] and mention the Sports Medicine Broadcast

Donate and get some swag (like Patreon but for the school)

HOIST – No matter your reason for dehydration DRINK HOIST

MedBridge Education – Use “TheSMB” to save some money, be entered in a drawing for a second year free, and support the podcast.

Marc Pro – Use “THESMB” to recover better.

Athletic Dry Needling – Save up to $100 when registering through our link.