Spread Your Wingspan

Spread Your Wingspan

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  • Mother Tongue by Jenni Nuttall

    Episode 29: Mother Tongue by Jenni Nuttall — A Nonfiction Deep Dive into the History of Women's Words

    Sara and Jennie step away from romantasy for a nonfiction episode on Mother Tongue: The Surprising History of Women's Words by Jenni Nuttall — a history of the English language traced through words used to describe women's bodies, sexuality, motherhood, work, and aging. They dig into the book's best moments (British towns historically named after a certain four-letter word, the etymology of "seamstress," the loss of language like "singlewoman"), get into an interesting disagreement about the book's treatment of gender-neutral language, and go on a tangent about the neuroscience of how language shapes perception. 

    Correction: In the episode, the hosts mention that Jenni Nuttall was a Cambridge University professor. She was actually a scholar at the University of Oxford, where she taught and researched medieval literature. Our apologies for misspeaking!

    Spoilers: None — this is a nonfiction discussion, not a plot-driven book.

    Content Warnings: Discussion of the historical influence of religion (particularly Christianity) on the oppression of women, brief mention of pregnancy loss, discussion of gender-neutral language debates (including a brief, non-judgmental discussion of "TERF" discourse), strong language/profanity throughout, and frank discussion of anatomy, menstruation, and childbirth.

    Chapters

    00:23 - Welcome back & introducing this season's nonfiction pick

    03:48 - Reading the book's summary and overview of its scope
    05:12 - Is this book intersectional? A discussion of its British, Old English-focused lens
    07:34 - Favorite historical finds: towns names after a fave 4-letter word, and British slang
    10:20 - "Flowers," "Aunt Flo," and disagreeing on period euphemisms
    11:14 - The legal history behind "spinster," "singlewoman," and married women's business rights
    12:15 - "Seamster" vs. "seamstress" and the linguistics of gendered suffixes
    14:06 - A tangent on the neuroscience of language and perception
    19:01 - Motherhood, poetry, and grief over lost language
    22:06 - Aging and menopause, and creating new language for "crone-hood"
    22:56 - Pregnancy and birth language — contractions vs. "surges"
    24:03 - Disagreement: was the author too neutral on gender-inclusive language?
    28:59 - Final ratings and why they'd recommend this one widely

    Mentioned in This Episode

    • Mother Tongue: The Surprising History of Women's Words by Jenni Nuttall
    • FAQ

      What book do Sara and Jennie discuss in Episode 29 of the Spread Your Wingspan podcast?


      They discuss Mother Tongue: The Surprising History of Women's Words by Jenni Nuttall, a nonfiction history of the English language as it relates to women's bodies, sexuality, and experiences.

      Is Mother Tongue by Jenni Nuttall a romance or fantasy book?


      No — this is a nonfiction linguistics and history book, a departure from the show's usual romantasy and romance focus.

      Do Sara and Jennie recommend Mother Tongue by Jenni Nuttall to their listeners?


      Yes — both hosts rate it a 9 out of 10 and call it highly accessible even for readers who don't typically read nonfiction.

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      33 min
    • SYW Season 3 Teaser

      Season 3 Teaser: What's Coming Up — ACOTAR Reread, Author Interview & More

      Sara and Jennie are back after a long break to give listeners a preview of Season 3. The headline: a full reread and recap of the ACOTAR series ahead of the publication of books six and seven, with some Crescent City and possibly Throne of Glass woven in. They also tease upcoming episodes on nonfiction, a hockey romance episode, an author interview with Jennifer MIchelle Herrera about her novel Siren Says, and Jennie’s plan to  pre-read Sierra Simone's Devil to scout it for content warnings before Sara dives in. 

      Spoilers: None — this is a preview episode with no book discussion.

      Content Warnings: None specific to this episode; brief mention that an upcoming book (Devil by Sierra Simone) carries its own strong content warning from the author.

      Chapters

      • 0:00 – Welcome back & why the long gap between seasons
      • 0:33 – Announcing the full ACOTAR reread and recap, ahead of books six and seven
      • 1:58 – Early reread reactions: revisiting Nesta and catching foreshadowing in the first chapters
      • 3:21 – What else is coming: nonfiction, a hockey romance, and an author interview with Jennifer Michelle Herrera on Siren Says
      • 3:36 – Previewing Sierra Simone's Devil and its content warning
      • Mentioned in This Episode

        • A Court of Thorns and Roses series by Sarah J. Maas
        • Crescent City series by Sarah J. Maas
        • Throne of Glass series by Sarah J. Maas
        • Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros
        • Siren Says by Jennifer MIchelle Herrera
        • Devil (Priest series) by Sierra Simone
        • FAQ

          What is Spread Your Wingspan covering in Season 3?

          Season 3 kicks off with a full reread and recap of Sarah J. Maas's ACOTAR series ahead of the release of books six and seven, plus episodes on nonfiction, hockey romance, and an author interview with Jennifer Herrera about Siren Says.

          Will there be spoilers in the ACOTAR reread series?

          Yes — full spoiler discussion is expected once the reread episodes begin, since the hosts have read the entire series.

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          5 min
        • The Primal of Blood and Bone

          Summary

          In this episode of the Spread Your Wingspan podcast, hosts Sara and Jennie dive deep into the latest installment of the Blood and Ash series, 'The Primal of Blood and Bone.' They discuss character arcs, plot developments, and the themes of love, obsession, and the complexities of relationships. The conversation also touches on the reactions from fans, the writing style of the author, and predictions as the series wraps up. With a mix of humor and insightful analysis, the hosts explore the intricacies of the story and its characters, making for an engaging discussion for fans of the series.


          Chapters

          00:00 - Introduction and Personal Anecdotes

          02:55 - Character Development and Emotional Impact
          08:47 - Themes and Symbolism
          14:54 - Climactic Moments and Revelations
          30:45 - The Weight of Leadership and Responsibility
          36:04 - Character Dynamics and Relationships
          42:33 - The Complexity of Ascension and Addiction
          53:28 - Reader Reactions and Authorial Choices
          01:05:10 - Looking Ahead: Future Themes and Representation
          01:06:36 - Outro

          1 hr 8 min
        • Interview: J.M. Frey

          Summary

          In this episode of the Spread Your Wingspan podcast, hosts Sara and Jennie chat with Canadian author J.M. Frey about her latest book, 'Nine Tenths.' They explore the inspiration behind the story, the themes of grief and colonialism, and the representation of mental health in characters. J.M. shares her writing journey, the significance of her characters, and the importance of research in crafting her narrative. The conversation delves into the meta-narrative techniques used in the book, the exploration of love and fear in relationships, and the social commentary on ethical wealth. J.M. also discusses her writing process and rituals, concluding with her hopes for readers to take away courage and kindness from her work.

          You can find J.M. Frey at her website: jmfrey.net

          and @j.m.frey on Bluesky, TikTok, Instagram, & Threads

           

          Chapters

          00:00 - Introduction to J.M. Frye and Nine Tenths

          03:05 - The Journey of Self-Publishing
          06:21 - Inspiration Behind Nine Tenths
          09:15 - Exploring Themes of Grief and Colonialism
          12:02 - Character Development and Personal Experiences
          15:22 - Meta Storytelling and Writing Process
          18:15 - Research and Historical Context
          21:06 - Anxiety Representation in Fiction
          24:01 - Romance and Speculative Fiction
          31:08 - Navigating Grief and Love
          33:02 - Character Development and Relationships
          34:49 - Exploring Dark Themes in Fantasy
          36:39 - The Role of Fantasy in Society
          38:57 - Ethical Wealth and Responsibility
          43:14 - The Creative Process and Writing Rituals
          52:05 - The Intersection of Science and Fantasy
          56:48 - Courage in the Face of Fear
          01:00:51 - Outro

          1 hr 2 min
        • Nine Tenths by J.M. Frey

          Summary

          In this episode, Jennie and Sara discuss the book 'Nine Tenths' by J.M. Frey. They explore the themes of wealth inequality, the complexities of relationships, and the representation of anxiety and bisexuality within the narrative. The conversation also touches on the world-building aspects of the story, including its historical context and cultural commentary. The hosts share their personal reflections on the characters and the dynamics of their relationships, ultimately providing a rating for the book and expressing excitement for the upcoming author interview.

           

          Content Warnings


          accidental injury between domestic partners, enslavement, loss of parent

           

          Chapters

          00:00 - Introduction and Excitement for the Interview

          04:38 - Themes Explored in the Book
          09:48 - Historical Context and Cultural Commentary
          17:39 - Spice Rating and Relationship Dynamics
          39:56 - Outro

          41 min
        • Born of Blood and Ash

          Summary

          In this episode, the hosts discuss the fourth and final book in the Flesh and Fire series, 'Born of Blood and Ash.' They explore its complex themes, including trauma, leadership, and the balance between fate and free will. The conversation delves into character development, romantic dynamics, and the implications of parenthood in a chaotic world. The hosts also express their excitement for future installments in this literary universe and reflect on the impact of page length on storytelling.

           

          Chapters

          00:00 - Introduction and Episode Overview

          00:24 - Content Warnings and Themes of the Book
          02:40 - Summary of 'Born of Blood and Ash'
          06:23 - Character Development and Relationships
          10:40 - Exploring Leadership and Decision-Making
          14:19 - The Role of Fate and Free Will
          18:39 - Reflections on Writing and Page Length
          22:30 - Pregnancy and Its Implications in the Story
          26:37 - Final Thoughts and Future Expectations
          35:11 - Outro

          36 min
        • A Fire in the Flesh

          Summary

          In this conversation, Jennie and Sarah delve into the third book of the Flesh and Fire series, discussing its themes, character arcs, and the complexities of morality and monstrosity. They discuss the development of the protagonist Sera, and the intricate dynamics of villainy and heroism. The episode also touches on the portrayal of romantic relationships and the pacing of the narrative. Overall, the conversation highlights the depth of the characters and the writing style, while setting the stage for the last installment in the series.

          Chapters

          00:00 - Introduction and Context Setting

          05:34 - Character Development and Themes of Monstrosity
          14:22 - Character Dynamics and Relationships
          21:31 - Empathy and Human Experience
          28:01 - Exploring Consent and Trauma in Romance
          34:05 - The Journey of Healing and Recovery
          39:11 - Romance and the Gray Areas of Consent
          47:03 - Outro

          48 min
        • A Light in the Flame

          Summary

          In this conversation, Jennie and Sara discuss 'A Light in the Flame', the second book in the Blood and Ash prequel series Flesh and Fire. They explore themes such as enemies to lovers, atonement, and the complexity of morality. The discussion highlights character development, the nature of good and evil, and the interplay of fate and free will. They also touch on the significance of the Draken and the terrifying villain Kolis, while reflecting on the emotional depth of the characters and their relationships.

           

          Chapters

          00:00 - Introduction

          06:32 - Themes of Enemies to Lovers and Atonement
          12:21 - Character Depth and Mental Health Themes
          18:27 - The Stakes of Mortality and Humanity
          26:16 - Sera and Nyktos: Love and Sacrifice
          31:56 - The Complexity of Love and Relationships
          37:07 - Villains and Betrayals: The Nature of Evil
          42:28 - The Draken: Love and Loyalty
          46:51 - Outro

          48 min
        • A Shadow in the Ember

          Summary

          In this conversation, the hosts delve into the second book of the Flesh and Fire series, a prequel to the Blood and Ash series by Jennifer L. Armentrout. They discuss the complexity of the plot, and the themes of fate versus free will, consent, and found family. The hosts also explore the emotional depth of the characters, particularly in relation to mental health, and the representation of relationships in the narrative. They provide insights into the writing style, pacing, and the spicy elements of the romance, ultimately sharing their ratings and impressions of the book.


          Chapters

          00:00 - Introduction and Character Debate

          05:36 - Themes of Fate and Free Will
          11:33 - Narrative Style and Writing Critique
          17:40 - Concluding Thoughts and Future Predictions
          23:50 - The Art of Smut: What Works and What Doesn't
          29:51 - Found Family: The Heart of the Story
          34:52 - Emotional Representation: Panic and Depression
          43:00 - Spice Ratings: The Heat of the Narrative

          47 min
        • Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma

          Summary

          The conversation delves into the complexities of engaging with art created by problematic figures, focusing on the themes of monstrosity, morality, and audience engagement. The hosts discuss the book 'Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma' by Claire Dederer, exploring their personal reactions to the text and the broader implications of consuming art in a capitalist society. They examine case studies of J.K. Rowling and others, highlighting the nuances of morality in relation to their work and public personas. The discussion emphasizes the importance of community support for artists and the need for ongoing dialogue about these issues.


          Chapters

          00:00 - Introduction and Context of the Conversation

          05:35 - Themes of Monstrosity and Audience Engagement
          12:19 - The Complexity of Female Artists and Monstrosity
          17:59 - Generational Trauma and the Stain of Artists
          24:38 - Concluding Thoughts on Art and Morality
          30:32 - The Impact of Celebrity Actions on Art
          35:52 - The Complexity of Artistic Legacies
          43:40 - The Nuances of Consumer Choices
          54:29 - Transitioning to New Literary Adventures

          58 min

        About Spread Your Wingspan

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        Created by Sara Vander Zwaag & Jennie Lindsay

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