Star Trek Resignation

Have we forgotten something? 1st impressions: The APP SUCKS. Maybe that's colored everyone's opinions this fresh The Expanse is mentioned not for the last time. What is each of us's Biggest Problem with this episode? Vulcan MagicIs Lorca's… bedroom scene particularly troublesome given current events?

Eventually: Some positives!

What if EVERYONE is a secret Klingon?

Just how serialized is this show again? I keep hearing how it's serialized.

Would we still watch a non branded "Galaxy Fight" at this point?

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We reflect with Vulcan logic on the state of Discovery, with the benefit of a few days rest to let our brash human emotions calm down.

Is this show good or bad? Somewhere in the middle?

Is it a paradox that Choose Your Pain was maybe the most Wade enjoyed the show, but also brought up the most concerns?

We hear a call from Stefan, who HATED this episode.

We also hear from Lane, who enjoyed it, and who has some follow up on his predictions from last week.

The Voq question: Are they really going to West Wing- er West WORLD this show?

Did Akiva Goldsman actually admit a third timeline? The article Hugh mentions has been updated since we talked, backtracking EXACTLY as we said it would go. (https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/tv/2017/10/18/16500810/star-trek-discovery-continuity-original-series) Have your own opinions? Let us have them!

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Lorca gets STOLE and the tardigrade suffers worse indignities.

A chill West Coast James joins us for our least tumultuous recap yet. We inflict surprisingly little pain on each other this time out.

We do call out AaronSorkin for all that mystery box business on WestWing. West Wing? Bear with us.

Ok. IT WAS L'RELL!

Stamets goes full squint.

Does Wade have a problem with Michael Burnham he's been hiding?

Is Mudd a Trump voter?

This episodes Secret Word?

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It appears some of you are worried about us. That perhaps this podcast isn't worth ruining our friendship over? Well tough! Cuz James has been booted from the podcast!

Ok, that's not exactly true, but this week it's just Wade and Hugh going over your voicemails and responses. Because... reasons.

Some of you take sides in our family squabble, and some of you have predictions about "Klingon Anderson Cooper." We talk The Expanse and what Star Trek: Discovery might look like if we had our druthers.

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The Butchers of Trek Care Not for the Nerd's Cry At last, it's not a pilot.

Do we finally know what kind of show Star Trek: Discovery is? Things are slightly less tumultuous this time as Wade, James, and Hugh go through the fourth episode, break it down, and yes disagree wildly on some topics...

Is Gabriel Lorca good at his job? Is he an awful Star Trek captain or a good captain for a different kind of situation?

What about the Klingons? How bout the vapors passing between Voq and L'Rell?

How bout the spores passing by the monster from last week's episode? Wade has some insight into the creatures original place on the show. Does nobody have a safe word for when things get out of hand?

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Opinions abound! We asked for your thoughts and you sent them! Instead of listening to us wildly disagree with each other, we take some time to listen to you and gracefully agree, nodding our heads and acknowledging just how smart and thoughtful you are. Halfway through James takes some time to explain just why Context is For Kings broke his brain.

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Jumping the Targ... We put the mystery box away and say what we really feel about this "second pilot" for Star Trek: Discovery. Did we watch the same show? Wade really enjoyed this third episode where we finally meet the titular ship and the crew. James and Hugh... maybe didn't? We compare notes about what we liked and disliked about the show, and see that our expectations really differ and inform our impressions.

We can all agree we think Jason Isaacs is a pretty great performer at least.

Want to talk Star Trek Discovery to attentive listeners just waiting for your call? 917 408 3898 Call the Kickers of Elves hotline and give us all your most polarizing opinions on what you think about Michael Burnham's actions so far on the edge of Federation space. 917 408 3898 In this episode we talk to Adam P. Newton, @Dryvetyme on twitter, about the Klingons, Vulcans, and whether or not it's worthwhile to make predictions Wade has used some salty language when talking to Tom from Cleveland, and here he tries to make amends. Stefan from the Netherlands has some opinions on smart characters making stupid choices.

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Well, it finally happened. Star Trek is back on the air! Does it feel like Star Trek? Who cares? More importantly... IS IT ANY GOOD? We actually liked it, thank goodness, but that's not stopping us from breaking down some pros and cons from the first 2 episodes of Star Trek: Discovery. SPOILERS for EPISODE 2 reside within! You've been warned.

Is it possible this could still be a "mystery box" show? There is some argument there.

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Two days before the airdate, Wade gathered up James and Hugh to reflect on what we've said about Star Trek Discovery in the past, talk about what we've since learned, and share just how excited we are about the show we'll be watching. This is what happened instead...