There is no doubt, immigration is a huge point of contention for much of the electorate, but why did Starmer use language that could be compared to language used by Enoch Powell in the 60's, even if it wasn't exactly the same? Given that Farage has taken the opportunity to condemn him for it, has it backfired completely? And, if we all agree that boat crossings aren't safe and that having huge numbers of people living in hotels isn't sustainable, why conflate those situations with all immigration? These are some of the questions Marina and Jemma ponder as they rake over the social media fallout post Starmer's recent speech on immigration. 

They also examine what his proposal's will mean for the already under-staffed care sector, and why so many people feel repulsed by the endless determination to try to win back votes from Reform. Who is advising Starmer? Why go this route? And why are Labour comms so lacking?

Then, guess how many of the new Reform councillors have already resigned? Spoiler - a lot. 

As ever the Trawl ladies wrap up with some under rated tweets and a thought provoking pudding. 

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