Welcome to this special episode of ENTELECHY Leadership Stories — amplifying Black voices.

Today's conversation is with Pastor CeJay Johnson, director of KOKA Radio in Shreveport, Louisiana.

He paints a very detailed picture of our shortcomings in racial justice, diversity, inclusion, and equity. Specific examples, from police actions to Confederate monuments. Listen closely as he observes how we are more segregated at churches on Sunday mornings than any other day of the week.

He speaks from the heart about ways to bring us together. And he says, start with the leaders.

Join this conversation with Pastor CeJay with your hosts, Kirstin Gooldy and Mark Stinson.