So, you’re one who’s looking for connection at church. You’re making the effort: You have a small group. You show up most Sundays. You engage in the worship, the teaching. But somehow, you’re not connecting with anybody. What’s the deal? Author and pastor Ben Connelly has some encouragement, actually a map. His latest book is A Field Guide to Genuine Community—25 Days & 101 Ways to Move from Façade to Family. Ben joins the team to talk about the upside of Covid; we’re willing to admit more than ever that we need each other.

Then, what genuine community looks like and how we get there—it has a lot to do with walking with fewer people more deeply. Next, it’s not about launching a new program, it’s about injecting one-another DNA. Then, maybe you’re afraid of getting too close, making yourself too vulnerable. Next, what genuine community for Ben and then for Perry looks like; it’s probably not what you think! Finally, we need to be intentional to connect in a large gathering, but it’s so much easier to run for the door when the large gathering is over!

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