Escape! by Stephen Fishbach is a razor-sharp story centered on a washed up reality star and a disgraced television producer risking everything for a storyline. Stephen joins us to talk about competing on Survivor, show bibles, performance, reality television production, identity and more with cohost Isabelle McConville.

This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Isabelle McConville and mixed by Harry Liang.

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Featured Books (Episode): Escape! by Stephen Fishbach Cue the Sun!: The Invention of Reality TV by Emily Nussbaum Orange World and Other Stories by Karen Russell Lord of the Flies by William Golding The Nix by Nathan Hill Severance by Ling Ma The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro