Do we love people by tolerating their terrible behavior? How do we stop demonizing people who get in our way? What about when I am the one who is sabotaging change?

In our conversation with Steve Cuss, author of Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs, we look at the reality of sabotage in the process of leading change. Because anxiety spreads in a group and because typically the most anxious person in the room holds the most power, managing ourselves in the face of sabotage is always the key to leadership survival.

We hope you'll listen in.

Conversation Overview

• Anxiety: even more contagious than COVID
• Does love mean I have to tolerate people's terrible behavior?
• How do I stop demonizing people who get in my way?
• Advantages of systems theory for leadership
• Working our way out of double binds
• Managing ourselves in triangles (and don't miss Steve's great definition of a triangle!)

About Steve

Steve Cuss is a multi-talented leader and also the pastor at Discovery Christian Church in Broomfield, CO.

Steve's Twitter feed is gold. Follow him @stevecusswords

You can also check out everything he's doing, including his podcast, at www.stevecusswords.com

His book is Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs.

Also mentioned on the podcast:

Generation to Generation by Edwin Friedman

The Family Crucible by Augustus Napier and Carl Whitaker