Continuing with the question, "How did the writers of the Federalist Papers imagine America," Steven and David are suddenly distracted by a related question: "How did the ancient Athenians imagine Greece?" Along the way, everybody also learns what "Amphictyonic" means.

Steven and David welcome their friend Gabriella Wilke from Commonweal Magazine to help them parse out the rhetoric and promise of Federalist 17

In which Steven and David get distracted by an earnest detour into the jurisprudence of Anthony Scalia

As Steven often reminds us, politics is an endless conversation

James Madison makes the case that we need to think locally

Hamilton asks, how do we avoid being attacked by our enemies, and how do we avoid becoming slaves to each other?

Steven and David look at Federalist 12, where Thomas Jefferson suggests that if America moves from farm work to manufacturing, we risk becoming slaves. It was a weird time.

The Value of Union to Commerce and the Advantages of a Navy - Alexander Hamilton

James Madison - The Size and Variety of the Union as a Check on Faction

We continue our journey. We are hope, despite the times.

Steven and David offer you what, back in the eighties, we would have called "a very special episode."