Fintan and Jon kick off by talking about the hot topics going on in the world - this time it's about dishonest politicians being dishonest, among other things [0:00 - 14:09]. Then we meet the honestly excellent Steven DeMar to learn about his also-excellent brother (who invented the arcade game Defender! For real!) and their business, ODDSWorks. The gents have created a gaming conduit for North America, effectively, which allows smaller studios to get their games out to a much, much wider market. It's proper genius, and he's an absolutely lovely man. But does he watch Cobra Kai??? [14:10 - 1:09:16]