Steve talks again with Kenneth T. Walsh, distinguished historian of the modern American presidency.  This is Part IV of a four-part conversation about Ken’s new book Presidential Leadership in Crisis: Defining Moments of the Modern Presidents from Franklin Roosevelt to Donald Trump. 

Part One can be heard here:  http://files.talkradioone.com/mp3/SS040321.mp3

Part Two can be heard here:  http://files.talkradioone.com/mp3/SS050821.mp3

Part Three can be heard here:

http://files.talkradioone.com/mp3/SS090421.mp3