Episode 3 gets emotional as Natalie and I recount what ward life is actually like.

You may have a view of what life is like on a Cancer ward, Chemetherapy, side effects, but maybe the reality is not what you imagine.

Underpinning it all was a desire to make this unusual life routine and the mutual love and respect we have for each other.

The patient and the carer.

We talk about our struggles to recieve help, Martins guilt around his diagnosis and the love that flowed on Ward 5D.

In episode 2 we chat about the signs we missed that something was not quire right eight months before the initial diagnosis. The signs that in hindsight are clear, but do we listen to what the universe is telling us?

As two business owners we also take you to the 96 hour window we had to pivot our businesses between diagnosis and hospital. How did we restructure fast so the businesses survived and prospered before an initial 65 day stint in hospital.

We also share the lesssons on what saved us financially, and delve into some topics that are uncomfortable as death stares us in the face.

Natalie will also share her detailed and informative laypersons perspective as to "what is Leukemia"

Join us on Episode 2

Still NotDead - Episode 1 - The Day Everything Changed.

January 16th, 2026. A phone call, fifteen words, life trajectory changed forever.

"Martin you have Leukemia, this is serious, this can kill you"

In a Melbourne hotel room Natalie heard it too.

Thousands of kilometers from home.

Two people, one diagnosis, two completely different experiences of the same moment.

This is the episode that started it all. The athlete who heard "game on" and the carer who heard terror and love simultaneously.

The hotel room, the silence, the tears, thedecision that would define everything that followed.

And the one job Natalie gave Martin before they left.

"Dont F#cking Die"

Still not dead is a podcast for anyone who recieved news that changed everything and the people who care for them.