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Cowboy Jen (TikTok @cowboyjen, Instagram @cowboyjippy, Tumblr @cowboyjen68, YouTube @cowboyjen1) and Rachel pick up where our last episode left off, this time covering the range of human experiences that exist somewhere between teenage volleyball feelings and Bigfoot encounters. But indeed, this episode is about stories. Cowboy Jen shows us the beauty we can achieve when we dare to communicate.

Music:

* "Glad It's Over," by White Bones, via Epidemic Sound

* "Get Outta My Face," by Wanda Shakes, via Epidemic Sound

* "Postapocalyptic Funk," by SINY, via Epidemic Sound

* "Pep Talk (Clean Version)," by Xavy Rusan, via Epidemic Sound

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Cowboy Jen (TikTok @cowboyjen, Instagram @cowboyjippy, Tumblr @cowboyjen68, YouTube @cowboyjen1) drops in to talk to Rachel about lesbian friendships, solidarity in the “queer community,” her journey to butch identity, and what it's like to be Lesbian Internet Famous.

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Music:

* "Glad It's Over," by White Bones, via Epidemic Sound

* "Get Outta My Face," by Wanda Shakes, via Epidemic Sound

* "Postapocalyptic Funk," by SINY, via Epidemic Sound

* "Pep Talk (Clean Version)," by Xavy Rusan, via Epidemic Sound

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trans misogyny /tranz spās məˈsäjənē/ (n.): internalized misogyny that expresses itself externally through disidentification with women… and asserting the right to assess a woman’s intelligence, legitimacy, or moral worth based on what your bro says

In this episode, two butch lesbians examine how it could be that the very people who assert authority on female masculinity apparently think we’re unicorns, and how an unhinged disrespect toward feminine women tracks pretty closely with that ignorance.

Context:

https://stonebutchdisco.substack.com/p/ending-our-relationship-with-aaron

A bit after we recorded this podcast, we received yet another email—this one based on the theory that our post above was sponsored by an international conspiracy. You can read it here, in these attached (redacted) screenshots: https://open.substack.com/pub/stonebutchdisco/p/s2-e1-thats-a-rare-fking-womanPaid Substack subscribers enjoy exclusive early access to new content, including video versions of the latest episodes.

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Note to listeners: This is a re-release from the original Stone Butch Disco pod, with a little editing :)

[An after-the-fact heads up! My (Rachel, your host's) "NSFW" content warning arrives too late in this episode to halt your progression into explicit sex talk! This probably also proves the futility of SBD content warnings.]

Have you ever sat through horrendous "lesbian porn"? Boring? Male gaze-y? Distractingly inauthentic noises? If so, this episode's for you. Maribel and Jenny grace Sam and Rachel with their wisdom on the techniques and technology to avoid any situation remotely akin to Pornhub's "lesbian" (there aren't enough air quotes in the world) wing. 

We also talk media representation and how, perhaps by some coincidence, male-owned media companies don't seem interested in showing a male-passing female butch lesbian strapping a feminine female woman where both partners are into it and loving life.

 

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Music, in order of appearance:

"Glad It's Over," by White Bones, via Epidemic Sound

"Get Outta My Face," by Wanda Shakes, via Epidemic Sound

"Postapocalyptic Funk," by SINY, via Epidemic Sound

"Pep Talk (Clean Version)," by Xavy Rusan, via Epidemic Sound

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Jenny (@bmorefemme on Instagram) and her wife Maribel (a.k.a. MB, @bmorebutch on Instagram), a downright legendary butch-femme couple, join Sam and Rachel to discuss the Old Sex Wars, the New Sex Wars, and what it was like mail-ordering dildos in the '90s.

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Music, in order of appearance:

* "Glad It's Over," by White Bones, via Epidemic Sound

* "Get Outta My Face," by Wanda Shakes, via Epidemic Sound

* "Postapocalyptic Funk," by SINY, via Epidemic Sound

* "Pep Talk (Clean Version)," by Xavy Rusan, via Epidemic Sound

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By request of several listeners and of my own heart, I made a longer-form introduction to Episode 4 that I ended up (duh, should have done this in the first place) pulling out as its own clip.

I've edited, reedited, fleshed it out, and here it is.

This minisode was prompted by some "fun" stuff on the Stone Butch Disco Instagram this week. [TL;DR: on the IG, some folks took our site's female lesbian namesake, Leslie Feinberg, whose website prominently displays her femaleness and she/her pronouns, and told us she was *actually* male -- then weaponized that fabrication to explain to us how the central aims of our project, 1) fighting for butch lesbians like us to reclaim our female bodies from the patriarchy and 2) fighting for femme lesbians to be allowed to say they exclusively desire female butch women, are both immoral and unenlightened to the obvious fact that sex is made up.]

I recorded this as a "toolkit" for anyone listening anywhere who has experienced similar hostilities, online or IRL, for talking about the specific ways they experience being a butch lesbian or a femme lesbian. (If you know, you know.) If this hasn't happened to you, great! I'm glad the queer community respects somebody. But if it has, here's something I hope helps. I'm learning more and more how many people share with me, but are as terrified as I have been of talking about, the routine experience of being told their language for their own political analysis of their own identity is not just difficult, or even unpalatable, but also makes them a shitty dumb idiot meanie.

Again: if that's not you, then ignore this one! It'll probably sound too quasi-academic and too much "blah blah." But if that is you, I hope this gives you a back-pocket resource to remind you (and me) there's not any damn thing wrong with us, and that Leslie Feinberg was a proud female lesbian who promoted transing gender conventions precisely because she fucked with gender like we do.

Like a female-out-of-line does.

 

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In Stone Butch Disco's first episode, Rachel and Meredith lay out the SBD project's theoretical foundations while talking about their experiences and making a combination of smart and stupid jokes.

Check out the goods, including Rachel's writing and all the merch we thought (at the time) was a good idea, at: https://www.stonebutchdisco.com

 

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Music used in this episode, in order of appearance:

• "Glad It's Over," by White Bones, via Epidemic Sound


• "Get Outta My Face," by Wanda Shakes, via Epidemic Sound


• "Pep Talk (Clean Version)," by Xavy Rusan, via Epidemic Sound


• Rachel's own shameless Beegees parody

 

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