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Counseling has changed a lot in the last 15 years—and not just because people are more open to it. In this episode, Adam and Sammy sit down with Kenny Perdue to talk about what’s different now: the rise of self-diagnosis, internet “expert” advice, buzzwords like narcissism and gaslighting, and how those filters can shape someone’s expectations before they ever walk into a session. They also unpack why some people don’t want help—they want validation—and how that impacts growth in relationships, communication, and personal healing.Kenny shares what’s helped him stay steady after decades of ministry and thousands of counseling conversations: learning to “leave it here,” finding healthy outlets, and most importantly—always chasing the why underneath behavior. They talk about listening as an art, how vulnerability builds trust, why context changes everything, and what helps people actually make progress (especially couples). If you’ve ever felt stuck in patterns you can’t explain—or you’ve wanted help but didn’t know how to start—this conversation will give you clarity, language, and hope.--Connect with:Adam Mesa https://www.instagram.com/amesa/Sammy Rodriguez https://www.instagram.com/samuelmrod/--Don't forget to stay connected with us:Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4OvpFp9OB9_DgVdVVbXhFgInstagram https://www.instagram.com/beyond.theletter/Tik Tok https://www.tiktok.com/discover/beyond-the-letter--Have a question? Submit it TODAY, by clicking the link below! ***SUBMIT YOUR QUESTION HERE: https://patria.church.ai/form/BeyondtheLetterQA--Get to know the team:@amesa https://www.instagram.com/amesa/@verlonbakerofficial https://www.instagram.com/verlonbakerofficial/@nancysnavas https://www.instagram.com/nancysnavas/@alizee.kayy https://www.instagram.com/alizee.kayy/@andytakesl https://www.instagram.com/andytakesl/
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Counseling has changed a lot in the last 15 years—and not just because people are more open to it. In this episode, Adam and Sammy sit down with Kenny Perdue to talk about what’s different now: the rise of self-diagnosis, internet “expert” advice, buzzwords like narcissism and gaslighting, and how those filters can shape someone’s expectations before they ever walk into a session. They also unpack why some people don’t want help—they want validation—and how that impacts growth in relationships, communication, and personal healing.Kenny shares what’s helped him stay steady after decades of ministry and thousands of counseling conversations: learning to “leave it here,” finding healthy outlets, and most importantly—always chasing the why underneath behavior. They talk about listening as an art, how vulnerability builds trust, why context changes everything, and what helps people actually make progress (especially couples). If you’ve ever felt stuck in patterns you can’t explain—or you’ve wanted help but didn’t know how to start—this conversation will give you clarity, language, and hope.--Connect with:Adam Mesa https://www.instagram.com/amesa/Sammy Rodriguez https://www.instagram.com/samuelmrod/--Don't forget to stay connected with us:Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4OvpFp9OB9_DgVdVVbXhFgInstagram https://www.instagram.com/beyond.theletter/Tik Tok https://www.tiktok.com/discover/beyond-the-letter--Have a question? Submit it TODAY, by clicking the link below! ***SUBMIT YOUR QUESTION HERE: https://patria.church.ai/form/BeyondtheLetterQA--Get to know the team:@amesa https://www.instagram.com/amesa/@verlonbakerofficial https://www.instagram.com/verlonbakerofficial/@nancysnavas https://www.instagram.com/nancysnavas/@alizee.kayy https://www.instagram.com/alizee.kayy/@andytakesl https://www.instagram.com/andytakesl/

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