This week on Wham Bam Thank You Pam, I sit down with Carla Ondrasik—former music publishing exec turned creative mentor and author of the upcoming book Stop Trying! Carla spent decades helping artists like Barbra Streisand, Mariah Carey, Cher, and her husband (Five for Fighting's John Ondrasik) climb the charts. Now, she’s helping the rest of us ditch the word “try” and start doing. We talk fear, procrastination, how to eat the frog, and what happens when you stop waiting and start acting. Plus, how a random hot tub encounter led to Mel Robbins endorsing her book.

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