Phoenix and Flame Podcast

Stop Winging It: A Leader's Guide to Resilience


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In this episode of Phoenix and Flame, Dana Skaggs welcomes Dr. Marie-Hélène Pelletier, psychologist, executive coach, and author of The Resilience Plan, to discuss the critical role of mental health and resilience in high-performing professionals. Together, they explore why winging it doesn’t work when it comes to stress, how leaders often overlook their own mental health, and the power of having a personalized, strategic resilience plan. Dr. Pelletier explains how to plan for life’s challenges before they hit and why boundaries, clarity, and mental fitness are key to thriving rather than just surviving. The conversation emphasizes that building resilience is not a sign of weakness; it is essential for long-term success, especially in fast-paced or high-demand environments. 

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Phoenix and Flame PodcastBy Dana Skaggs: psychotherapist and keynote speaker

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