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Please be aware that this conversation contains discussion of suicide, addiction, and mental illness.
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What resonates with you from the Theory of Positive Disintegration?
How can we start to challenge the framework we have about cognition and emotion?
How might we use TPD and CMM to equip ourselves to lean into the challenge of deconstructing and reconstructing our values?
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Dr. Chris Wells is a writer, social worker, and founder of the Dabrowski Center, a nonprofit organization dedicated to advancing the Theory of Positive Disintegration (TPD). They are also the co-host of the Positive Disintegration Podcast.
Emma is the co-host of the Positive Disintegration Podcast, and creates content for people learning about the TPD for her website Tragic Gift, and YouTube channel, Adults With Overexcitabilities.
In this conversation, originally recorded in early 2023, Emma and Chris share some stories about themselves, including their relationships to the Theory of Positive Disintegration (TPD) and their own experiences with giftedness. Abbie, Emma, and Chris discuss stereotypes, “spurs to self-correction,” and what it could look like to transform overexcitability in order to live with intense experiences. Emma and Chris break down the Theory of Positive Disintegration. Emma and Chris talk about “authentic voice,” multilevel and unilevel disintegration, and supportive relationships. Abbie explains the similarities she sees between CMM and TPD. Finally, Abbie, Chris, and Emma discuss their shared passions for making the content of their theories more accessible.
Purchase the Dabrowski Congress Recordings here.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
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Listen to our conversation with Rik in Ep. 8.
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What examples of indigenous representation have you encountered?
For both indigenous and non-indigenous people, how can you seek out more stories told by indigenous people about indigenous experiences?
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Jessica Engelking (she/her) is a descendant of the White Earth Band of Ojibwe. She has a bachelor’s degree in Philosophy from the University of Minnesota, Morris and a master’s degree in Philosophy from the University of Iowa. Her research interests included the philosophy of fiction, metaphysics, and logic. While in Iowa, she became involved in the efforts to protect the land and water. She continues to work with Great Plains Action Society from her residence in Minnesota. Jessica is the author of Peggy Flanagan: Ogimaa Kwe, Lieutenant Governor as part of the Minnesota Native American Lives series.
Today, Jessica introduces herself and the work she does as Representation Director at the Great Plains Action Society. Abbie and Jessica discuss why representation matters, how Jessica’s background in philosophy shapes her work, and what impacts better representation and more access to indigenous stories has had for both indigenous and non-indigenous people. Jessica shares about her experience writing a biography of Peggy Flanagan as part of the Minnesota Native American Lives series. Finally, Abbie and Jessica explore the effects of both positive and negative representation.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
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Listen to our conversation with Rik in Ep. 8.
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How did you (or did you not) see yourself represented in stories growing up and how did that shape your understanding of yourself?
How has your story changed?
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Hannah Soyer is a queer disabled writer living in the Midwest. She has written for
nationally acclaimed publications such as The Sun Magazine, Bustle, and Cosmopolitan and is the editor of The Ending Hasn’t Happened Yet: An Anthology of Disability Poetics from Sable Books (2022). Her debut lyric memoir, Dreams in Which I'm Almost Human, is forthcoming from Red Hen Press. Hannah also happens to be a cat and chocolate enthusiast.
Today, Hannah begins by introducing herself, including how her creative work centers around her neuromuscular disability, was largely prompted by mental health struggles she had a young adult, and how it has become a sacred and magical place. Abbie and Hannah discuss why they both love stories, what it means that Hannah sees storytelling as “beautiful acts of survival, resistance, and community building,” and how our stories change with us.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
Find Rik on YouTube.
Listen to our conversation with Rik in Ep. 8.
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How can you practice both authenticity and empathy as you interact with others?
How can you create a “Neurodiverse Affirming” space in your social worlds?
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Emily Kircher-Morris, M.A., M.Ed., LPC, inspired by her own experiences as a neurodivergent person, is dedicated to destigmatizing neurodiversity and supporting neurodivergent people of all ages. Emily currently works as a mental health counselor in private practice at Unlimited Potential Counseling & Education Center in O'Fallon, Missouri. Emily is the author of “Teaching Twice-Exceptional Learners in Today's Classroom" and "Raising Twice-Exceptional Children: A Handbook for Parents of Neurodivergent Gifted Kids”. Emily hosts The Neurodiversity Podcast, which explores the psychological, educational, and social needs for enriching the lives of neurodivergent people.
Today, Emily introduces herself, her personal and professional background with neurodiversity, and her passion for creating empowering language for all to better embrace who they are. Abbie and Emily discuss accommodations, authenticity and empathy, and masking and camouflaging. Finally, Emily defines her “better social world” as one that is “neurodiverse affirming.”
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
Find Rik on YouTube.
Listen to our conversation with Rik in Ep. 8.
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How can we find the courage to tell our stories, knowing that it matters for us to tell them?
What is the story that you want to tell about yourself? How is it different from the story the world is telling you?
What is your current understanding of disability? How do you relate to those who are disabled?
How can we embrace the experience of having a body in a way that empowers us as we age and our bodies change?
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Rebekah Taussig is a Kansas City writer, educator, and parent. Bolstered by academic knowledge and personal experience, she strives to tell stories that enhance and complicate the way we think about disability. You can find her writing on Instagram, in her memoir, on her website, and Substack.
In this conversation, originally publish in three parts in August 2023, Rebekah shares about her experience growing up and the stories (or lack thereof) that most shaped her. Abbie and Rebekah discuss the intersecting ideas of “pluralistic truths,” “both/and,” and “this too;” the power of when Rebekah began to hear and tell more stories that reflected her experiences; and the fact that we have choices about the kinds of stories we tell about ourselves. Next, Abbie and Rebekah define “collaborative re-imagination.” Abbie and Rebekah discuss the deeply personal, but also widely impactful, language that we use to talk about people with disabilities. Rebekah describes her first experience teaching high school English and makes the distinction between the medical and social models of disability. Abbie asks Rebekah about where she experiences “awe.” Finally, Abbie and Rebekah talk next turns: “Ask. Listen. Adapt. Expand.”
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
Find Rik on YouTube.
Listen to our conversation with Rik in Ep. 8.
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Visit the Stories Lived. Stories Told. website.
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Explore all things Stories Lived. Stories Told. here.
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Please be aware that this conversation contains brief references to sexual violence and wrongful imprisonment.
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What is your “sphere of influence” and how can you change how you show up to it?
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John Stewart served on the faculty of the Department of Communication at the University of Washington from 1969 to 2001; was Vice President for Academic Affairs at the University of Dubuque; and became Special Assistant to the President of UD in 2010, retiring in 2016 to focus his training and consulting efforts on diversity-equity-inclusion (DEI) projects. Between 1973 and 2013, John published 11 editions of the widely-adopted Bridges Not Walls: A Book About Interpersonal Communication. In 2017 he published Personal Communicating and Racial Equity, 2nd. ed. (2017), and his most recent book is Dismantling Racism One On One: Uniqueness Narrative Equity (2023). John contributed the chapter “Through Empathizing to Co-constructing Uniquenesses” to the open access book, Through Your Eyes: Research and New Perspectives on Empathy (2024).
Today, John and Abbie discuss the power of communication, “co-constructing uniquenesses,” and interpersonal instances of racism in a larger context of systemic racism and white supremacy. John offers three ways to dismantle racism one on one: offering and inviting reflections, offering and inviting choices, and offering and inviting feelings. Abbie and John explore the importance of offerings and invitations in conversation for creating felt trust. John describes “co-constructing uniqueness” as a step beyond empathy.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
Find Rik on YouTube.
Listen to our conversation with Rik in Ep. 8.
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Visit the Stories Lived. Stories Told. website.
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Where in your life can you practice critical thinking?
How can you think critically about your communication?
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John Chetro Szivos is a semi-retired professor but still an active author who recently published On Becoming a Critical Thinker: Awakening Your Business Superpower. A student of Vern Cronen’s at UMass, Amherst and a dedicated CMM researcher and follower of the philosophy of John Dewey, he offered this manuscript to help others improve their thinking to make better social worlds.
Today, John and Abbie discuss communication and critical thinking, not as skill sets, but as embodied ways of being. Abbie and John explore an experience of John’s as a metaphor for the practice of critical thinking, consider the (potentially) complimentary relationships between individuality and sociality, and break down what it looks like to practice critical thinking. John discusses the difference between technical and adaptive problems and how critical thinking shapes our responses. Finally, Abbie and John discuss choice, joint action, and interdependence.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
...
Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
Find Rik on YouTube.
Listen to our conversation with Rik in Ep. 8.
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What is going on with your physiological self right now? What do you need to do to slow down and get quiet enough to pay attention to this?
How might your interactions and relationships change if you show up using what you learned about Polyvagal Theory today?
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Michael Allison is the developer of The Play Zone; a contributing author for Psychology Today with his platform, The Pressure Paradox; an educational partner with Polyvagal Institute; and a Polyvagal Performance Consultant for high profile organizations, executives, coaches, teams, athletes & creatives.
Today, Michael and Abbie make connections between Polyvagal Theory and Coordinated Management of Meaning, discussing freedom, choice, context, and emergence. Michael explains Polyvagal Theory and what it looks like to tune into our physiological experiences; create safety, healing, and growth through practice; and be “polyvagal-informed” in our relationships. Michael and Abbie use a polyvagal lens to unpack a story that Abbie shares about her own experience with pressure, performance, and physiology. Finally, Michael explains what changes in our lives when we orient toward “play" and move away from a default of stress.
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What is Polyvagal Theory?
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
Find Rik on YouTube.
Listen to our conversation with Rik in Ep. 8.
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How are you showing up?
Where can you learn to “hold space”?
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Aminata Cairo is an anthropologist, psychologist, educator, storyteller, and “love-worker." She is an independent consultant “who works with people." She is the former lector of Inclusive Education at The Hague University of Applied Sciences and the former lector of Social Justice and Diversity in the Arts at the Amsterdam University of the Arts. She is particularly interested in using her academic, artistic and community skills to support, honor and celebrate the voices and stories unheard, overlooked, silenced and marginalized. Her work is exemplified in her 2021 book, Holding Space: A Storytelling Approach to Trampling Diversity and Inclusion, in which Aminata presents her own, unique vision in the promotion of inclusion that far surpasses the standard diversity & inclusion approach.
Today, Aminata introduces the idea of “holding space” within our relationships and within ourselves. Abbie and Aminata discuss the importance of taking risks by leaning into the discomfort we feel when faced with different or unfamiliar stories. Abbie and Aminata compare their communication and storytelling perspectives. Finally, Aminata shares about her experiences with and understanding of holding space across cultures.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
Find Rik on YouTube.
Listen to our conversation with Rik in Ep. 8.
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How do you show up for your community? For people outside your community?
What could we do together if we were all committed to protecting the human dignity of all people?
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Janie Mac is a co-founder of Refugee Community Kitchen, a volunteer-run organization that has been serving hot, nourishing meals to displaced people in Northern France and the UK since 2015.
Today, Janie explains her work with the Refugee Community Kitchen, exploring why she and her co-founders were motivated to create RCK, how RCK supports displaced people by providing nourishing meals, and what communication looks like for an organization that is adapting to an ever-changing situation. Janie and Abbie discuss the “new story” that Janie is hoping to tell in her work and why the current state of the world makes that story more important than ever. Finally, Janie shares about meeting people where they are, serving them on their journey, and inspiring action in volunteers.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
...
Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
Find Rik on YouTube.
Listen to our conversation with Rik in Ep. 8.
...
Visit the Stories Lived. Stories Told. website.
Follow Stories Lived. Stories Told. on Instagram.
Subscribe to Stories Lived. Stories Told. on YouTube.
Explore all things Stories Lived. Stories Told. here.
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The purpose of Coordinated Management of Meaning is to create better social worlds through better communication. This podcast is about empowering all of us in our communication to see ourselves as…