Strange and Undecided

Episode 38 - On May 16th, 2022, the partial remains of a woman were discovered in a garbage bin behind an apartment building in Winnipeg. The resulting investigation pointed towards the work of a serial killer and as time went on more people would be linked to this case. As of now in 2025, 4 indigenous women have been officially identified as victims however, finding these women’s bodies was a different story and one that was compounded heavily by politics. The investigation into finding some of the missing women was stalled and resisted. But why? In this episode we are going to discuss the timeline of the murders, who committed these crimes, and why recovering the bodies was delayed and even disregarded by both police and the provincial government.

SHOW NOTES

TRANSCRIPT

FRIDAY, May 26, A

VIDEO FOOTAGE

Serial killer tells Winnipeg police his killings were racially motivated

Court hears video evidence of Jeremy Skibicki's confession to Winnipeg police | CBC.ca

Winnipeg serial killer admits racial motivations in confession video

Jeremy Skibicki confesses to killing four women

Video showing admitted serial killer with two of four victims played at trial | Watch News Videos Online

A timeline of what we know about 4 slain Winnipeg women and serial killer Jeremy Skibicki | CBC News

Police begin search of Winnipeg landfill for remains of homicide victim found dead in May | CBC News

Victims were overpowered, choked and drowned in a bathtub

Alleged Winnipeg serial killer threatened to kill 2 previous partners, court records reveal | CBC News

Accused killer's allegedly hate-filled online presence should be factored into investigation, trial: experts | CBC News

(1) Man arrested in Rebecca Contois murder charged with 3 more homicides: Winnipeg police - Winnipeg | Globalnews.ca

Alleged serial killer in custody and charged in killings of 4 Indigenous women in Canada, police say | CNN

Winnipeg serial killer seen with victims in video footage played at trial | CBC News

Canadian man charged with murdering four Indigenous women | Canada | The Guardian

Estranged wife has protection order against man charged in killing of 24-year-old | CBC News

3 First Nations women, 1 unidentified woman were victims of alleged serial killer: Winnipeg police | CBC News

Canadian killer given life sentences for four murders

‘Evil monster’: Man sentenced to life for slayings of 4 Indigenous women in Winnipeg - Winnipeg | Globalnews.ca

Landfill search begins in Manitoba for remains of serial killer's victims

Second body identified in Canada landfill amid search for serial killer’s victims | Canada | The Guardian

2nd set of remains found at Manitoba landfill confirmed to be Marcedes Myran | CBC News

Remains of Canadian serial killer's victims found in landfill

Remains of another Indigenous woman murdered by serial killer found at landfill in Canada, officials confirm - CBS News

Mashkode Bizhiki'ikwe now has a name: Ashlee Shingoose was Winnipeg serial killer's 1st victim | CBC News

Complex investigation ruled out potentially undiscovered victims of Winnipeg serial killer, police say | CBC News

Jeremy Skibicki admits to killing 4 Indigenous women

Update of Investigation re Identification of Mashkode Bizhi’ikwe (Buffalo Woman): C22-103187 | City of Winnipeg

Episode 37 - On the afternoon of July 31, 1987, the city of Edmonton, Alberta, was struck by a sudden natural disaster. An exceptionally powerful tornado tore through the eastern edge of the city leaving behind a path of destruction. This was one of the deadliest tornadoes in Canadian history injuring many and leaving 27 people dead in its wake. The event came to be known to the citizens of Edmonton as Black Friday. How did this all happen and why was nobody prepared? In this episode we are going to look into what was happening weather-wise before the tornado hit, the destruction it caused, and what has been done to understand and prevent something like this happening again.

PHOTOS AND NEWS COVERAGE DISCUSSED IN EPISODE

Photos: Gallery: Black Friday remembered through images | Edmonton Journal

News Coverage: The 1987 Edmonton tornado | CBC.ca

SHOW NOTES

Edmonton Tornado (1987) | The Canadian Encyclopedia

TORNADO - A Report - Canadian Red Cross

'Terrifying': Edmonton's mayor drove cab during July 1987 Black Friday tornado | Edmonton Journal

Recalling Canada's second-deadliest tornado, killing 27 in Edmonton - The Weather Network

Flashback to the destructive 1987 Edmonton tornado - Indianapolis News | Indiana Weather | Indiana Traffic | WISH-TV |

A massive tornado tore through Edmonton 37 years ago today | News

A Commemorative Reflection On The Edmonton Tornado and Hailstorm, 1987

The Black Friday Tornado: Remembering July 31, 1987 | Reader's Digest

Edmonton, Alberta F4 Tornado – July 31, 1987 – Tornado Talk

Edmonton tornado - Wikipedia

1987 Edmonton tornado - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thirty years after deadly Edmonton tornado, storms remain difficult to track | CBC News

The Edmonton Tornado of 1987 –

Residents of Alberta remember 1987 tornado - Canadian Red Cross

Episode 36 - On December 15th, 2017, the bodies of 75-year-old Barry Sherman and his 70-year-old wife Honey Sherman were discovered in a room that contained their swimming pool. After an initial investigation, the police implied that this might be a case of murder-suicide but did not state it directly. It would prove to be a grave mistake. A separate private investigation conducted their own investigation and determined that Barry and Honey were actually the victims of murder. Why would one of Canada’s most well-known philanthropic couples be murdered and why did the police get it wrong? In tonight's episode we are going to discuss who the Sherman’s were and the investigation into their deaths. In Part 2, we will discuss who might have wanted them dead. Welcome to the Strange and Undecided Podcast.

SHOW NOTES

Victim Honey SHERMAN - Toronto Police Service

Victim Bernard (Barry) SHERMAN - Toronto Police Service

There Are Imponderables: The Strange Case of Barry Sherman | Free Inquiry

Barry and Honey Sherman murders' newest twist: family and police join forces - Macleans.ca

Behind the shadows

Photos reveal Honey Sherman likely attacked inside her house

Barry and Honey Sherman murders: Inside the lives of the billionaire couple

Bernard (Barry) Sherman

Canadian Pharmaceuticals Billionaire And Wife Found Dead In Toronto Mansion

5 years after a billionaire and his wife were found murdered, their family is offering $35 million to catch their killer - CBS News

Police skipped ‘Homicide 101’ in billionaire Sherman murders

Barry and Honey Sherman: The first 48 hours are crucial in a homicide. The police acted like they were in no rush

Domestic troubles, the investigation – and just how cold the Barry and Honey Sherman murder case is

Barry and Honey Sherman were murdered, police say

Barry and Honey Sherman’s bodies were found posed like the sculptures in their basement

Barry and Honey Sherman sued builders of North York home

Supreme Court unseals Barry and Honey Sherman estate files, paves way for access in Toronto Star legal win

Frank D'Angelo - Wikipedia

Apotex founder Barry Sherman and wife found dead in Toronto home | Financial Post

Site Of Honey And Barry Sherman's Now-Demolished Home For Sale

An ‘urban explorer’ entered Barry and Honey Sherman’s home before demolition and saw papers that ‘looked like evidence’

Family of murdered Canadian billionaire Barry Sherman split over money | National Post

WARMINGTON: Investigators should 'follow the money' to solve Sherman murders | Toronto Sun

Billionaire Murders | Crave

Episode 35 - On December 15th, 2017, the bodies of 75-year-old Barry Sherman and his 70-year-old wife Honey Sherman were discovered in a room that contained their swimming pool. After an initial investigation, the police implied that this might be a case of murder-suicide but did not state it directly. It would prove to be a grave mistake. A separate private investigation conducted their own investigation and determined that Barry and Honey were actually the victims of murder. Why would one of Canada’s most well-known philanthropic couples be murdered and why did the police get it wrong? In tonight's episode we are going to discuss who the Sherman’s were and the investigation into their deaths. In Part 2, we will discuss who might have wanted them dead. Welcome to the Strange and Undecided Podcast.

SHOW NOTES

Victim Honey SHERMAN - Toronto Police Service

Victim Bernard (Barry) SHERMAN - Toronto Police Service

There Are Imponderables: The Strange Case of Barry Sherman | Free Inquiry

Barry and Honey Sherman murders' newest twist: family and police join forces - Macleans.ca

Behind the shadows

Photos reveal Honey Sherman likely attacked inside her house

Barry and Honey Sherman murders: Inside the lives of the billionaire couple

Bernard (Barry) Sherman

Canadian Pharmaceuticals Billionaire And Wife Found Dead In Toronto Mansion

5 years after a billionaire and his wife were found murdered, their family is offering $35 million to catch their killer - CBS News

Police skipped ‘Homicide 101’ in billionaire Sherman murders

Barry and Honey Sherman: The first 48 hours are crucial in a homicide. The police acted like they were in no rush

Domestic troubles, the investigation – and just how cold the Barry and Honey Sherman murder case is

Barry and Honey Sherman were murdered, police say

Barry and Honey Sherman’s bodies were found posed like the sculptures in their basement

Barry and Honey Sherman sued builders of North York home

Supreme Court unseals Barry and Honey Sherman estate files, paves way for access in Toronto Star legal win

Frank D'Angelo - Wikipedia

Apotex founder Barry Sherman and wife found dead in Toronto home | Financial Post

Site Of Honey And Barry Sherman's Now-Demolished Home For Sale

An ‘urban explorer’ entered Barry and Honey Sherman’s home before demolition and saw papers that ‘looked like evidence’

Family of murdered Canadian billionaire Barry Sherman split over money | National Post

WARMINGTON: Investigators should 'follow the money' to solve Sherman murders | Toronto Sun

Episode 34 - This week Jarret, Pat, and Brando narrate some scary stories from reddit. Make sure you’re cozy and somewhere safe. Check under your bed and your closet as well. Now that you’re ready, try not to get too scared.

STORIES

[True] The woman in the white dress : r/freehorrorstories

I was stalked while on a hockey trip : r/freehorrorstories

[True] Terrifying Childhood Dreams : r/freehorrorstories

[TRUE] the night in the forest : r/freehorrorstories

[TRUE] The Grinning Man : r/freehorrorstories

Lady of the Hollow (true) : r/freehorrorstories

Maple 🍁 Crest Demon?(True Story). : r/freehorrorstories

(True) I think I have a Bigfoot Problem : r/freehorrorstories

Episode 33 - On the night of February 3rd, 1880, a mob formed a plan to rid their town of a problem. This problem was the Donnelly family. They had been a problem for too long and made the community’s lives a living hell, it was time to deal with them once and for all. The mob attacked the Donnelly’s in their home and by the end of the night killed 5 of them. The main question is why? Why was the family slaughtered and more mysteriously why was nobody convicted of the murders? In this episode, we will explore the lead up to the massacre, the theories that exist of why the family was so hated, and why nobody was convicted and the murders?

History | Lucan Museum

Black Donnellys | Origin of the Massacre and Ghosts | Article

The Black Donnellys live on, 125 years later | www.aronheller.com

The tale of The Black Donnellys brought to life in Picton - Picton Gazette | The Picton Gazette

The Donnellys | The Canadian Encyclopedia

Heaven and Hell on Earth: The Massacre of the"Black Donnellys"

Black Donnellys - Wikipedia

MysteryQuests—Great Unsolved Mysteries in Canadian History

The Donnelly Massacre | PNI Atlantic News

Donnelly's legend lives on in Thorold - Thorold News

Episode 32 - On a cold night along the Klondike Highway in the Yukon Territory of Canada, something strange was spotted hovering in the sky. What people witnessed that night puzzles them to this day, but many are certain it was a UFO. To researchers, this case remains one of the most significant and mysterious UFO sightings in Canada history. The reason for its significance was that it involved a large number of credible witnesses made up of civilians, local authorities, and even law enforcement. Most importantly they all reported seeing the same thing: strange lights and a massive object moving in the sky. In this episode we are going to examine the events that took place on the night of December 11th, 1996, the witnesses involved, the theories for what people saw, and the fact that the government gave no explanation for the event.

SHOW NOTES

2023 Yukon high-altitude object - Wikipedia

Image released of mysterious object shot down over Yukon in 2023

UFO Sighting at Little Fox Lake, Yukon

The Yukon “Giant Mothership” UFO

The Yukon Territory Encounters, 1996 (Klondike Highway)

Witnessed by more than 20 people: the 1996 Fox Lake UFO incident in Yukon, Canada - Nexus Newsfeed

Case 22: Index

Thirty Witnesses Encounter The Biggest UFO Sighting Ever Reported | Close Encounters

UFOs in the Yukon | Travel Yukon - Yukon, Canada | Official Tourism Website for the Yukon Territory

1 oz. Pure Silver Glow-in-the-Dark Coin – Canada’s Unexplained Phenomena: The Yukon Encounter | The Royal Canadian Mint

2022 $20 Canada's Unexplained Phenomena: The Yukon Encounter - Pure Si

the yukon encounter Archives - The Westminster Collection

p22.pdf

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The Canadian Ufo Report: The Best Cases Revealed Book By Chris A Rutkowski,geoff Dittman, (Paperback) | Indigo

Episode 31 - On Labor Day Weekend in 1990, the Sousa family returned home from vacation. That night, someone broke into their house and attacked them. Lora Sousa, the mother, survived the attack however, her daughter Leah Sousa was not so fortunate. Her body was found the next day amidst a brutal crime scene. How was someone able to get away with such a heinous crime without being seen or heard? We will unpack the details of this case in this episode.

SHOW NOTES

Sousa, Leah - Canadian Crime-opedia

Murder Most Forgotten: A cold case the victim can't remember | CTV News

Ontario Provincial Police

COLD CASE: Search for child killer continues 27 years after Leah Sousa murder

A lot is known about Leah Sousa’s killer — except who he is

UNSOLVED: The Unsolved Murder of Leah Sousa (1990 - Ontario) — CANADA UNSOLVED

OPP continues search for killer 25 years after Leah Sousa murdered | CTV News

Who killed Leah Sousa? Murdered Cumberland Beach teen was 'sweetest person': family friend

Tip revives 1990 murder case

A Vulnerable Family Is Attacked in the Middle of the Night, With the Daughter Murdered Brutally. Who Killed Leah Sousa? | by Yasmin Scherrer | Medium

Search for killer continues 25 years after Orillia girl murdered

The Last Word: Trying to remember a girl's killer

Episode 30 - Canada’s nickname has been the great white north for as long as I can remember. The country is no stranger to snowstorms or ice. Some of these storms can cause schools and workplaces to shut down or even vehicles to slip off roads and highways. But some storms are worse than others. Much worse. Heading back in time to January of 1977, there was one such storm that hit Southern Ontario and Western New York so hard it put them into a state of emergency, and they were shut down due to its severity. Thousands of people were stranded, and some would even lose their lives. How did this storm happen, why was it so devastating, and could it happen again?

SHOW NOTES

Blizzard of 77 Slideshow

Enhanced Fujita Scale

Blizzard of '77

Blizzard of 1977 - Wikipedia

WEATHER AND CIRCULATION OF JANUARY 1977 in: Monthly Weather Review Volume 105 Issue 4 (1977)

USATODAY.com

Daily Data Report for January 1977 - Climate - Environment and Climate Change Canada

Daily Data Report for January 1977 - Climate - Environment and Climate Change Canada

What Happened? :: “White Death — The Blizzard of ’77” by Erno Rossi

What Happened During Niagara Falls’ Great Blizzard of 1977? - City Experiences™

Blizzard of '77

1977 Lake Effect Blizzard

Weather Events of our History | Grey Roots

On this day 45 years ago, the Blizzard of ’77 struck – stories from the storm | News 4 Buffalo

Storm that caused the president to declare 7 counties federal disaster areas - The Weather Network

Blizzard of 77 | Niagara Falls Tourism

Buffalo's Blizzard of '77: Newspaper, radio & TV broadcasts bring the storm back to life... - Buffalo Stories Archives & Blog

Obituary information for Erno Delano Rossi