AUKUS, the trilateral security pact involving Australia, the U.S. and the UK, has not just angered China and France but some drawn criticism from some ASEAN member states as well. There’s no unanimity in the 10-member bloc on the issue though. Indonesia and Malaysia have warned that the deal, which will help Australia build nuclear-powered submarines, could trigger an arms race in the region. But the Philippines says the pact will maintain the balance of power in the region. Despite the lack of coherence across Southeast Asian countries, we haven’t really seen negative implications for the respective bilateral relationships of those countries with Australia, the UK or the U.S., says Evan Laksmana, a senior research fellow at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, National University of Singapore. But if China chooses to respond to AUKUS by increasing its military presence in the South China Sea, the immediate recipient of the tension will be the Southeast Asian countries, Laksmana told StratNews Global. Listen in for more.