If you ever wondered if you can be kicked out of God's family, or doubted that you're in the family or wondered if God even wants you in his family, then welcome to a real life struggle that followers of Jesus sometimes face.  Perry and Shawna are joined by Todd Krygsheld, Chaplain at the Ottawa County Jail.   Their conversation is all about how we can know we're saved, that we're in God's family.  They share some of their own struggles with doubt, how we can't out sin God's grace and how the gospel frees us from the performance to earn God's approval mindset that gets at the root of our doubts.  We can know and be assured of salvation, not because of our feelings or our performance but because of the absolute trustworthiness of Jesus.