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Dave discovered Vanessa when she was featured in an intriguing Wall Street Journal article by Lisa Bannon. The article sparked his interest about businesses engineered to serve the Stubbornly Young, and reigniting careers in your 60s and 70s. 

Vanessa spoke to Dave about transitioning from the workplace to retirement. Flipping the script on the processes of valued workers retiring from their jobs and what companies can do to help with changing priorities to help leave their legacy and pass on their knowledge to up and coming generations through the notion of ‘true mentorship’. 

As the world population moves to living to one hundred years old, Vanessa shares the concept of being a ‘Mentern’ in your 60s and beyond and how retirees and the younger generation can work together by exchanging hard and soft skills through mentoring to improve ourselves and preserve intellectual capacity from our experiences.

Top Takeaways:

• Changing dynamics of the aging population
• Embracing the wisdom and experience of older individuals
• Importance of transferring institutional knowledge within organizations
• Impact of knowledge transfer on company competitiveness
• Concept of flexible work arrangements and its potential benefits
• The value of mentorship in facilitating knowledge transfer and enhancing professional development
• Emerging trend of companies focused on longevity tech and aging
• Excitement about the potential for innovation in the aging tech space
• Future of work and providing purpose for individuals as they age
• Dave's perspective on the future of work and potential future plans

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“What we're going to see, especially in the next decade with the second wave of baby boomers getting into retirement age, is that people are not going to just take it and be put to the side, these are people who are incredibly dynamic, so wise, they have so much to give. I'm really excited for the types of services that they're going to be coming up with, and also how we're going to be working with them in an intergenerational society in a way that we haven't seen.”  –Vanessa Liu

“The currency that people who are now of retirement age, what they have is their wisdom, is their knowledge.” –Vanessa Liu

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Vanessa Liu on LinkedIn
Vanessa Liu on X

From Strength to Strength: Finding Success, Happiness, and Deep Purpose in the Second Half of Life by Arthur C. Brooks

About Vanessa Liu

Vanessa has over 25 years of experience and a proven track record of value creation as a serial founder, operator, strategist and investor. She was most recently Vice President of SAP.iO North America, SAP’s early-stage venture arm, where she recruited and accelerated 87 enterprise software startups. Prior to SAP, Vanessa was Chief Operating Officer at Trigger Media Group, a digital media venture studio, and co-founded Trigger’s portfolio companies: InsideHook and Fevo. She began her career at McKinsey & Company in their Amsterdam, London and New York offices.

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I was fascinated by the data being collected around polarized attitudes and immediately thought this could be interesting for you, the Stubbornly Young audience.

Stephen is an impressive guy. He consults for Harvard University, the Aspen Institute, and others, and has co-authored several reports that have been featured over a thousand times in media by presidential candidates on C-SPAN, even for a panel at the UN General Assembly.

He shares valuable and insightful notions regarding generational perspectives, and working towards the idea of keeping an open mind through effective exercises that bring people together and reduce prejudices between generations.

Stephen shares real life examples and the notion of increasing absence of building quality community and civic participation in the younger generation because of local and global events of the last 50 years. To have intergenerational interactions and applying intellectual humility to bridge the gap between the younger generation and those in their 50s and 60s and have natural interaction and learning about each other is something that is needed to improve mental health and building a stronger social fabric.   

Keep listening after the interview for a bonus conversation at the end of the show where Dave speaks further with Stephen where they discuss more on Stephen's own opinions and valuable insights of society and its future beyond the 21st Century and for generations to come.

Top Takeaways:

• Importance of intellectual humility, empathy, and open-mindedness in navigating societal divisions
• Impact of generational differences and the role of older generations in bridging the gap between different perspectives
• Value of open conversations with people holding different perspectives and listening with empathy
• Potential role of people in their 50s, 60s, and beyond in bringing people together and fostering unity
• Challenges faced by younger generations, such as lack of community and declining civic participation
• Significance of fostering open-mindedness, empathy, and community engagement in addressing societal divisions
• Media and political environments' cynical nature and systemic incentives leading to negative outcomes
• Need for leadership to construct both the potential for disaster and prosperity, urging for honesty and a focus on general wellbeing
• Importance of coordinating efforts to achieve a prosperous future and shift away from negativity

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“We have more division and fracturing in perspectives on society, not because things are going badly, but because a lot of different groups are acting in their interests very effectively.” –Stephen Hawkins

“If I could have a megaphone and speak to younger generations and the stubbornly young, the values that I am most eager to see in society today are curiosity, empathy, humility, personal responsibility. All of those things are related to having an open mind.” –Stephen Hawkins

“An open mind keeps us fresh, and it's better for the world.” –Dave Tabor

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Stephen Hawkins on LinkedIn
More in Common website

Please note, there is swearing in this episode. 

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Kaitlin Borncamp is a professional nutrition and mindset coach and has the official title of the Wellbeing Champion at consulting firm EY. What intrigued Dave about Kaitlyn is that she says the elephant in the room when she’s talking to clients is always aging. Lots of podcasts talk about physical aging, that’s not what Kaitlyn and Dave will be talking about in this episode, however more about mindset as we age.

Kaitlin shares her knowledge and expertise with Dave about what a mindset coach is, in the context of health and aging, her role as Wellbeing Champion within professional services consulting firm, EY, in corporate America and practical strategies that help with collaborating in harmony amongst different generations in the same workforce.

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Episode Highlights:

• Impact of age on mindset and the workplace
• Challenges of aging and self-perception
• Addressing age-related mindset barriers in the workplace
• Coaching individuals in their 50s and 60s
• Embracing continuous learning and adaptation
• Finding meaning and value in contributions of older employees
• Prioritizing physical and mental wellbeing
• Staying relevant and engaged as individuals age
• Embracing new technologies and work that brings joy
• Role of curiosity and open-mindedness in navigating aging in the workplace

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“Keep learning. I love learning and I just think it can change your perspective. There's always more and more information coming out… And so really, my strategy to stay relevant myself is just to keep learning.

“It's about how do you show up day to day and how does your perception of your life, age, and time actually impact your identity?”

“The commonalities, I would say, for a few great leaders that come to mind that are senior leaders is willingness to have an open mind.”

“They (the aging workforce) are really able to bring a unique perspective and if they don't let the aging become sort of that first barrier, then it really just opens up to be such a great, great value add to the team.”

-Kaitlin Borncamp, professional nutrition and mindset coach

Links Mentioned:

Feel Great with Kait website
Kaitlin Borncamp on LinkedIn
Kaitlin Borncamp on Facebook
EY website

About Kaitlin Borncamp, CPA, NTP

Former CPA Kaitlin Borncamp is now a Health Alignment Expert and Mindset Coach with a focus on high-achieving executives and leaders. Having previously worked for top consulting firms and tech organizations, Kaitlin has over 3,000 professional experience as a Certified Nutritional Therapist. Her areas of expertise are stress resilience strengthening, mental health improvement, performance optimization, and daily energy enhancement.

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Episode 2 of the Stubbornly Young Podcast, takes you briefly through Dave's 9 rules for being stubbornly young. These guideposts will have you thinking of practical activities to keep your mind, body and spirit stubbornly young. 

You can find Dave’s at length post and read more about these live and ever changing set of rules on his blog. You can also share your insights, thoughts and feedback with Dave and start the conversation about it. 

Here are the 9 rules for staying stubbornly young: 

1.       Embrace the new world

2.       Consume thought provoking content 

3.       Enjoy the outdoors and physical activities

4.       Don’t talk about medical stuff 3:16 short version  

5.       Be open to the merit of both sides of an issue

6.       To be upbeat, keep a sense of humor and don’t complain

7.       Learn something new

8.       Try something new

9.       Accept that I’ll make mistakes

Dave’s book recommendation: Ready Player One 

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I had to catch a new wave... I asked myself, "What is happening in the world that can make me newly relevant with the core competencies, skills and life experiences I've earned over the last 60 years?"
-Mark Schaefer, bestselling author & international speaker

Dave's first guest has been an influence and support towards Dave's idea of releasing the Stubbornly Young podcast. Mark Schaefer is a Bestselling Author having written 10 books on social media, marketing strategies, advertising, and personal branding to name a few. A highly sought-after International Speaker, Mark sits with Dave to talk about important ways of being relevant in a rapidly changing digital work.  

Mark shares three assuring notions to remaining relevant while entering his final third of his career, and ways you can also apply your skills and competencies to continue being relevant and overcoming the fear of learning something new in your fifties, sixties and beyond through experimenting and learning to adapt to the times. 

Episode Highlights:

• Importance of staying relevant as people age
• Need for continuous learning and mindset shift
• Leveraging core competencies and life experiences
• Maintaining a personal brand and being known
• Addressing challenges of ageism and shedding stigma
• Courage and confidence from continuous learning
• Staying conversational about current trends
• Curiosity-driven approach to learning
• Appreciating the rebellious nature of each generation

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"We need a new mindset for relevance."
 
"If you're compassionate and generous, you definitely can become newly relevant, but maybe applying it in a new way."

“Being aware of your special skills, your special talents that make you unique, and applying it to the world in a way that makes you relevant is more important than ever.”

-Mark Schaefer, bestselling author & international speaker

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Mark Schaefer’s website
Mark Schaefer on LinkedIn
Mark Schaefer on Facebook
Mark Schaefer on Instagram
Mark Schaefer on YouTube
Ready Player One book by Ernest Cline
Marketing Rebellion: The Most Human Company Wins
KNOWN personal branding Workbook by Mark Schaefer

Read my Blog called Rules For Being Stubbornly Young and let me know what you think! 

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Check out where it’s all happening on the Stubbornly Young website 

Thanks and looking forward to hearing how you’re remaining stubbornly young!