- Earth vs. Mars

 - Top 5, No Surprise!

 - Trail Stories

 - Instagram Artist Sells High

 - Frode Bolhuis

 - 00:15 - A better world or Mars

 - 00:50 - Rovers with no soul

 - 01:15 - Half of global art sales, but is the art interesting?

 - 01:30 - L.A. makes "Top 5" art city list

 - 02:15 - California, Mars, what's the difference?

 - 02:50 - New York, LA, San Francisco, Chicago, Miami

 - 03:50 - "Bananas, duct tape, invisible art" in Miami

 - 04:05 - Is the "creative center" really in Seoul?

 - 05:00 - Has NY lost its "artsy" edge?

 - 05:40 - "The Getty" ruined a biking trail

 - 06:20 - James gets dumped (on the worst trail ini Phoenix)!

 - 08:00 - A wash and a boulder

 - 08:50 - Tom Thumb trashed toenails

 - 09:30 - Underrepresenting women in art

 - 11:00 - North Mountain in the dark

 - 12:20 - Strava tracks your stuff?

 - 14:31 - Social media intelligence test?

 - 15:35 - "I Am Not a Robot" tests don't care if you're a robot

 - 16:50 - Instagram artist makes good!

 - 17:35 - Liking the still lifes and "Godzilla"

 - 19:40 - Tiny figures make me happy! Frode Bolhuis

 - 21:28 - Human form, human psyche

 - 23:14 - Kinda like Pinocchio?

 - 24:04 - Intuitive Alarm!

 - 25:30 - It takes this village (to make interesting people)

 - 26:05 - Daily creativity

 - 27:35 - Actually discussed art!

 - 28:02 - We're both done!

 - Tim Sprague - Real Estate Developer - Phoenix, AZ

 - 00:10 - Welcome Tim Sprague!

 - 01:00 - Tim's story: "I got thrown into the deep end of the pool!"

 - 03:00 - Prime interest rate comparison provides perspective

 - 04:19 - Crazier than the 1980's!

 - 04:27 - COVID, world economy, supply chain issues, Ukraine

 - 05:15 - Tim is "pro-Phoenix", but it took awhile

 - 05:45 - Waiting for cold tap water...

 - 08:00 - Desert biome sunsets are the best!

 - 10:43 - Courage, school of hard knocks, transforming community

 - 11:40 - Applying lessons from bigger urban centers

 - 12:15 - Cultivating arts, culture, and design into buildings

 - 12:30 - Oasis on Grand - Affordable Housing for Artists

 - 15:00 - Funding affordable living and political challenges

 - 15:55 - Stratified Economic Housing

 - 17:20 - Greenfield development vs in-fill projects

 - 18:30 - Urban sprawl taxes community infrastructure

 - 20:00 - Walkable communities, neighbors, being known

 - 22:00 - Good design beats fashion

 - 23:40 - Found:Re - Hotel and Gallery

 - 27:01 - Arizona "Art Boutique Hotel" for all facets of art

 - 28:35 - Not pretentious, not fussy, just beautiful art

 - 29:08 - "Industrial Chic" and good lighting!

 - 31:10 - "Cracking the egg" on in-fill development

 - 32:38 - Roosevelt Action Association in response to 1-10 expansion

 - 33:35 - Margaret T. Hance Park, the most invisible park in the country

 - 34:12 - "The Golden Spike" joins East and West freeways

 - 35:48 - Tim listens (and repeats!)

 - 36:35 - "Creativity means generating ideas, good design pays for itself"

 - 37:35 - "Everything we really care about is based on a story"

 - 38:10 - Tim tells a story about his grandfather

 - 39:10 - Tim will return in "Drought Talk"

Themes

 - Deep dig into Minecraft

 - Plumber shout out!

 - Multiple follow-ups

 - MET does good website!

 - People and art students suck

 - Betty Rubble

Notes

 - 00:18 - Catherine chooses coffee over Bedrock

 - 01:00 - Microsoft emails James

 - 01:30 - History of Minecraft, the original blocky world

 - 03:15 - Scripting, cross-platform, running native? What?

 - 03:55 - SubRant embraces “tech geek world”

 - 04:30 - Everything leads to “The Flintstones”

 - 05:20 - Plumber shout out! https://georgebrazilplumbingelectrical.com

 - 06:20 - Expansion tank saves the day!

 - 06:44 - Nicholas is also a “Grocery Store Superstar”!

 - 07:55 - Fake bird surveillance joke follow up https://youtu.be/l30_APBNPXg

 - 09:25 - We’re not art lawyers, but Catherine will test the waters

 - 10:00 - We’re not scientists either, so below are alternate sources

 -  - 1 - Kat Epidemiologist https://www.epidemiologistkat.com

 -  - 2 - Very Bad Wizards https://www.verybadwizards.com

 -  - 3 - Andy Does Healthy https://www.tiktok.com/@andydoeshealthy

 - 11:25 - James is a ruthless self-promoter (not)

 - 12:05 - Now here’s a really good museum website! https://www.metmuseum.org

 - 12:26 - Fly-through videos! https://www.metmuseum.org/art/online-features/met-360-project

 - 13:00 - “Fake” follow-up about curator responsibility

 - 14:45 - Mona Lisa eats cake https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/05/mona-lisa-attacked-at-louvre-museum-by-vandal-with-patisserie

 - 16:40 - Breaking News: “People suck”

 - 17:12 - James makes a case for cannibalism

 - 17:50 - Groceries going MIA

 - 18:58 - Forget Durango, just camp in San Francisco

 - 21:15 - Details are important (and interesting)

 - 22:10 - Marks of the mono print

 - 23:26 - Intaglio embarrassment: Catherine gets mocked in art class

 - 25:17 - Garbage torso painting is difficult because it’s garbage!

 - 26:20 - Education theory according to James

 - 26:55 - Betty Rubble

 - 27:25 - At least the plumbers are listening!

 - The science of boredom. So bad we had to do it twice.

 - 00:10 - Take 2

 - 00:45 - Less you know & clueless Joe

 - 01:05 - Spotify, if you're listening!

 - 01:52 - "Blinded me with (bad) science (journalism)"

 - 03:15 - Warning: No "Life Coach" On Duty

 - 03:45 - Scientific fluff piece?

 - 04:20 - Let's get into it!

 - 05:07 - Emotional hyperbole

 - 06:17 - Boredom seems correctable

 - 07:03 - Please define!

 - 08:47 - Categorizing boring

 - 09:27 - Catherine's studies cemented crazy!

 - 09:48 - Opinion about assumption isn't science

 - 11:06 - James has a sleep hobby

 - 12:27 - Buzzing outta boredom

 - 13:47 - "Excruciating" not proven

 - 14:32 - "It's all hypothetical"

 - 15:27 - Hypothetically, artists are interesting?

 - 16:02 - "Who feels more deeply than the artist?"

 - 17:05 - The simple wisdom of Von Tilburg!

 - 17:42 - Let them talk!

 - 19:01 - Reframe the lie?

 - 20:26 - Shameless SubRant sticker plug

 - 20:37 - Spotify, are you listening yet?

 - 21:17 - How to be left alone at a party!

 - 22:50 - James is bored and out!

 - Leaving Facebook, again!

 - Warhol stole our colors

 - Drought is real

 - "The Sugar Shack", Ernie Barns

 - Barns, Wyeth, Rockwell, Holyfield

 - Sugar Shack vs The Mona Lisa

 - Doesn't matter what is real

 - Stupid or boring, both!

 - 00:07 - Cookies and podcasts don't mix

 - 00:55 - 72hrs of Facebook is enough!

 - 02:05 - "Faking" a breach for a phone number?

 - 03:30 - James plays "chicken" with Instagram, and wins!

 - 04:05 - Panic de-activation

 - 04:55 - They know what you did last summer

 - 06:02 - Black and white and mostly people I don't know

 - 08:30 - Artist name correction: "One Beach Plastic", Richard and Judith Lang

 - 09:25 - Ozzie Osborn is alive, but James remain unconvinced (or maybe just doesn't care)

 - 09:50 - Our opinions are not legal advice AND neither of us are lawyers!

 - 10:15 - Warhol' and SubRant's common-color-ground

 - 10:55 - Just get a real camera!

 - 11:57 - What is a "Super Market Star"? Catherine is.

 - 12:45 - Drought of content about a drought

 - 13:55 - Calabasas Koi

 - 14:45 - Wealth and the American "Porpoise"

 - 16:45 - Symbiotic relationship between rich people and big goldfish explained

 - 17:11 - "Let them eat koi!"

 - 17:50 - Good Times! Another art auction, another $15,000,000!

 - 18:20 - "The Sugar Shack", by Ernie Barns

 - 19:07 - He fills the canvas with movement!

 - 19:46 - "Country Ride" 1982 reminiscent but not derivative of Wyeth

 - 21:35 - Barnes: "abstraction not exaggeration"

 - 22:20 - Similar to Rockwell, in that they are both illustrators of ideas

 - 24:21 - John Holyfield

 - 25:03 - Back to Warhol, it's just a t-shirt

 - 25:30 - "The Sugar Shack" vs. "Mona Lisa"

 - 26:30 - We're not meat bags, we're a simulation

 - 28:37 - Do you prefer stupid or boring?

 - 29:26 - Twitter poll fail

 - 30:15 - Go wash your car

 - Anniversary Interrupted

 - No Fun With Migraines

 - Zooming In Pajamas

 - Everything Is Garbage

 - Micro-plastic in the blood

 - Pink Ball, Blue Ball

 - Trashing Art

 - 00:20 - "Spot on" co-host forgets SubRant anniversary

 - 01:30 - Other co-host forgets about Leap Year

 - 02:10 - James crushes migraine for sake of podcast

 - 05:00 - Airport pajama fashion

 - 05:47 - Reviving Facebook

 - 06:35 - "Zero-sum" upgrade or princess fantasy?

 - 08:57 - "You got a window, open it"

 - 10:15 - Plastic garbage obsession

 - 11:00 - Misinterpreting micro-plastics

 - 12:00 - Forgoing a Lego blood clot

 - 12:45 - Vegetarian siting on dead cow worries about plastic toothpaste

 - 13:40 - Just waiting to be discovered!

 - 14:04 - 'Blue Balls' destroy humanity

 - 15:17 - "One word: plastics" (The Graduate, 1967)

 - 16:20 - Plastic saturation limit

 - 16:45 - Catherine's savage mercury moment

 - 17:41 - Talking strangers at the grocery strangers and palpating tomatoes

 - 18:45 - Take-out plastic overwhelms studio space

 - 19:58 - Plastic pollution art

 - 21:30 - Don't divert, use real trash! "Bristol Whales" by Sue Lipscombe

 - 22:25 - My bags have been a tapestry "Bridge" and "Ocean of Plastic" by Dianna Cohen

 - 22:50 - Consuming chips for art

 - 23:32 - Colorful bottle top rainbow trash "One Beach Plastic" by Richard and Judith Lang

 - 24:22 - Infinitely sustainable materials?

 - 25:02 - Compressing into nature "Plastic Planet" by Calder Kamin

 - 26:07 - Introducing "Tik-Toad"

 - 26:34 - James has a favorite!

 - 27:02 - The Great Lakes palette

 - 28:48 - Podcast of imperfection

 - 29:02 - "What is art? Listen and you still won't know!"

 - 30:12 - "I good think too"!

 - Conspiracies are for the birds

 - Wearable art?

 - If I made a TikTok

 - (Over) Selling Warhol

 - Gratuitous BTS reference

 - Tricycles can hurt you

 - 00:30 - Pivot followup: Shadowcat is a trail bike

 - 02:00 - $7700 of fun

 - 02:30 - Instagram followup: James is a hypocrite

 - 03:15 - Black and white and square and mostly cat

 - 04:00 - Podcast birds (aren't real)

 - 05:00 - No birds in the hood?

 - 06:00 - "Hit piece" gets tarred and feathered

 - 06:40 - All conspiracies should be this much fun!

 - 08:00 - Catherine gets concerned

 - 08:35 - "Are you referring to bird drone surveillance?"

 - 09:25 - The internet raised him good

 - 10:15 - Listener provides content! Thanks Jay!

 - 11:00 - Old Masters and altered sleeves

 - 12:08 - Who called her an old lady?

 - 13:00 - If the jacket fits

 - 13:35 - The real crime is calling it "art"

 - 14:35 - Bed under a "Starry Night"

 - 15:00 - Spitballing a TikTok series

 - 15:44 - (Over) Selling a Warhol

 - 16:35 - James drops his Warhol cringe, just this once

 - 17:30 - Marilyn v. Andy AKA "Iconic v. Iconic"

 - 19:15 - "Shot Sage Blue Marilyn" captures the 1960's

 - 20:35 - Shoutout to Phoenix Art Museum

 - 21:20 - Is it OK to film art and them post it?

 - 21:55 - BTS adjacent "Rkive art vibe"

 - 23:45 - Second tricycle childhood?

 - 27:25 - Turning, tipping, crashing, and freaking out. Thanks Trike!

 - 27:50 - Ozzie Osborne is alive!

 - 29:00 - PSA: Slow your 3-wheel roll

 - 29:45 - James was wrong

 - Writer DJ Leary discusses art, poetry, prose, and next steps on his creative journey.

 - 00:12 - DJ "SubRants" again!

 - 02:00 - Pandemic apartment good for writing

 - 02:50 - Laundry basket anxiety attack

 - 04:00 - Poems, stories, Pivot Cycles commercial

 - 04:20 - DJ's Pivot Shadowcat Ad

 - 08:20 - "4 Minutes Later" (James bike-nerds out)

 - 09:50 - No more training wheels, ever!

 - 11:15 - Listen to the neighborhood ambiance

 - 12:00 - "DC Rat Mob" (actual rodents, not politicians)

 - 14:08 - Bethesda v. Scottsdale and a tattoo artist's floor

 - 16:20 - Bird loudly joins podcast

 - 17:00 - What DJ will and won't miss about Phoenix

 - 19:20 - Phoenix expensive, friends moving on

 - 20:30 - One rodeo is enough for a lifetime

 - 21:00 - Surprise, DC is political!

 - 22:30 - Poems for "Tuckle"

 - 23:13 - Cocaine free coffee beans

 - 24:15 - No "swerving right" for easy money?

 - 26:00 - Writers needed (in Thailand?)

 - 27:15 - Fiverr and the "gig economy"

 - 29:15 - Motivated through authentic interaction

 - 32:18 - Instagram as "poetry archive"

 - 33:30 - DJ is a tattoo!

 - 35:30 - Being an artist is hard work

 - 38:40 - Screaming into the Twitter void

 - 41:04 - Instagram pay dirt

 - 43:20 - Next steps for prose over poetry

 - 44:50 - Think you're good at what you do? You're not!

 - 47:45 - Catchy, but played out

 - 49:00 - Practice makes better

 - 50:25 - DJ and a typewriter

 - 52:00 - San Diego and DC give "great busk"

 - 53:03 - Shout out to The Smithsonian

 - 54:05 - DJ recites a poem

 - Forgetful U.S. healthcare system

 - Tattooing Phoenix

 - Discoveries in weird places

 - SubRant social media

 - (Too) Hot Phoenix real estate

 - Art intersection

 - Gentrification is disorienting (for Catherine)

 - 00:05 - SubRant is hostile, but it's not work

 - 01:45 - James is unrecognizable

 - 02:45 - Curious canine cat food caper!

 - 04:50 - Tattoos, but where (to get one)?

 - 05:26 - Forehead or nowhere!

 - 06:20 - Will Catherine really get tattoos?

 - 08:00 - James and "left breast Jimin"

 - 09:03 - Moving on...

 - 09:10 - Digging Anat, the "Goddess of Everything"

 - 09:50 - Destination: Gaza, but back away from my head!

 - 11:15 - Hidden basements and the boxes therein

 - 13:15 - Attention (13 listeners): SubRant SubReddit coming!

 - 14:36 - James is "way serious"

 - 14:50 - Better late than never! SubRant social media!

 - -  Instagram: SubRant Podcast

 -  - Twitter: @SubRantPodcast

 - 15:10 - Messing with realtors!

 - 15:50 - "Housing Fodder and Unaffordable Phoenix"

 - 16:38 - All James needs is weather, trails, Costco

 - 17:21 - Redefining "exponential" and exerting male privilege

 - 18:50 - Compelling content as Catherine files her nails

 - 20:20 - More money than sense, but not climate refugees

 - 21:55 - Least sustainable city? Let's move there!

 - 22:45 - Intersection Art

 - 24:28 - Too much ado about Trompe-l'oeil

 - 25:20 - Phoenix murals, the 80 seconds of art this week

 - 26:00 - Disorientation in the Arts District

 - 27:43 - Shipping containers and hip hop

 - 29:53 - Lovin' the urban chic vibe

 - 31:15 - Putting a pin in "Art on the Street"