Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with Laz for one of the most honest conversations we’ve had about ministry, burnout, and finding your way back when everything feels broken.Laz shares his journey from touring in metal bands, stepping into church production with zero experience, rising into leadership at Soul City Church — and then walking away from ministry not once, but twice. They unpack what led to burnout, how unspoken expectations and self-pressure can quietly destroy your health, and why sometimes leaving is the only way to truly heal.They talk about:🔥 Church burnout and the cost of never asking for help🧠 Mental health, therapy, and breaking ministry stigma👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Raising kids while serving in church leadership🎛 Growing from volunteer to Technical Director❤️ What brought Laz back to ministry — with a healthier heartThis episode is for anyone who’s ever thought, “I can’t do this anymore” — and wondered if there’s still a future for them in the Church.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with Laz for one of the most honest conversations we’ve had about ministry, burnout, and finding your way back when everything feels broken.Laz shares his journey from touring in metal bands, stepping into church production with zero experience, rising into leadership at Soul City Church — and then walking away from ministry not once, but twice. They unpack what led to burnout, how unspoken expectations and self-pressure can quietly destroy your health, and why sometimes leaving is the only way to truly heal.They talk about:🔥 Church burnout and the cost of never asking for help🧠 Mental health, therapy, and breaking ministry stigma👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Raising kids while serving in church leadership🎛 Growing from volunteer to Technical Director❤️ What brought Laz back to ministry — with a healthier heartThis episode is for anyone who’s ever thought, “I can’t do this anymore” — and wondered if there’s still a future for them in the Church.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!

This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Danielle Iselin, Global Production Director at VIVE Church — a rapidly growing multi-campus church with locations across the U.S., Europe, and the Middle East. Danielle leads production for 15 campuses around the world — almost entirely volunteer-run.She shares her journey from growing up in Australia and studying forensic investigation to running production systems that support international campuses. This conversation dives deep into leadership, culture, and scaling creative ministry in one of the world’s most innovative church environments.They talk about:🌍 What it takes to lead production across multiple countries.🎚 How to train volunteers effectively (even online).💡 The systems that make scaling sustainable.❤️ Building culture between worship and production teams.👩‍💻 Being a woman in church tech — and why representation matters.If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the demands of ministry or wondered how to multiply what’s in your hands, this episode will remind you that the solution might already be sitting in front of you.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!

This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Stephen Brewster — creative leader, coach, and founder of The Harmony Group — to talk about burnout, leadership, and rebuilding your life when ministry nearly breaks you.

Stephen’s story takes him from the music industry to Cross Point Church, through burnout and anxiety, and into a new calling helping churches write and release music that actually serves their people. It’s a powerful conversation about leadership, identity, and the cost of creativity in the church world.

They talk about:
🔥 What burnout really feels like (and how to see it coming).
🧭 Why boundaries and expectations save your ministry and your family.
💡 How to rebuild when everything falls apart.
🎵 The truth about church worship projects — and when not to make one.
❤️ Why calling isn’t about what you do, it’s about who you are.

Whether you’re a pastor, creative, or volunteer, this episode is for anyone who’s ever wondered, “Can I really keep doing this?”

Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

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Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!

This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Tony Sorrentino, CEO of OX Creative, to talk about what it looks like to follow God’s calling through major life and career transitions.

Tony shares his journey from leading worship at Willow Creek Church to running a global creative agency that serves ministries, nonprofits, and purpose-driven brands. They unpack what it means to step out of ministry without stepping away from purpose — and how to lead creative people with clarity, humility, and courage.

They talk about:
🎸 Leaving church staff and rediscovering calling.
💡 The tension between faith, creativity, and leadership.
🏗 How OX is building a 100-year vision that multiplies good.
🧭 Why healthy transitions and risk-taking leadership matter more than ever.
❤️ How to empower people, not just manage them.

It’s an honest, hope-filled conversation for anyone navigating leadership, creativity, or a season of change — a reminder that calling isn’t about your title, it’s about your obedience.

Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

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Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!

This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Aaron Stanski, founder and president of Rise Point, to talk about one of the most expensive and misunderstood parts of ministry — building projects.

Aaron has helped design and guide hundreds of churches through renovations, new campuses, and master plans. In this episode, he shares what really goes into creating spaces that serve ministry instead of distracting from it.

They talk about:
🏗 How to avoid wasting millions on buildings that don’t fit your mission.
📐 The biggest design mistakes churches make (and how to fix them).
💡 Why your “phase two” may never happen — and what to do about it.
💬 How to balance beauty, budget, and calling when building for the Kingdom.
❤️ Why the process matters as much as the final product.

Whether you’re dreaming about your first campus or planning your fifth expansion, this episode will give you practical wisdom and spiritual perspective on how to build with purpose — not pressure.

Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

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Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Jaden Seno, Technical Director at *The Chapel* in Chicagoland — and one of the most talented young audio engineers you’ll meet. At just 23, Jaden has gone from volunteering at his local church to overseeing production for multiple campuses and leading teams of volunteers with humility and heart. They talk about: 🎚 How Jaden got his start in church tech at 15. 🎧 The journey from “just unmuting channels” to mixing for thousands every weekend. 🏗 What it’s like leading volunteers twice your age. ❤️ Why relationships and discipleship matter more than perfect mixes. ⚙️ How to stay teachable, take risks, and keep growing in ministry. It’s an honest and inspiring conversation about calling, character, and what it really means to serve the Church through production. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together. Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠ 📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠ ⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Jeremiah Carlson—former frontman of The Neverclaim and Brutal Fight—to talk about his journey from hardcore tours and record deals to pastoring worship teams and rediscovering the heart of the local church.Jeremiah shares about:🎸 Getting saved as a teenager in the Portland hardcore scene.🎤 Touring the world with The Neverclaim and signing a major record deal.🏠 Leaving Nashville to follow God’s call to a small church in Boise.❤️ Learning to build ministry around people, not performance.They talk about revival, burnout, church wounds, and what it really means to build a healthy worship culture—one where you don’t sacrifice people on the altar of excellence.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Cody Patterson—a worship pastor, creative leader, and marketing director whose story is nothing short of unbelievable. From getting accidentally shot in the chest at 18 and learning to sing again, to leading in both church and corporate spaces, Cody’s journey is one of faith, humility, and growth.They talk about how to build teams that value people over perfection, the difference between excellence and control, and why empowering volunteers matters more than flawless Sundays. Cody also shares what churches can learn from Chick-fil-A, and how to heal the “us vs. them” divide between worship and production teams.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!

After a summer break, Caleb & Kaleb are back in the studio to kick off a fresh run of episodes with some lighthearted fun, honest talk about the grind of podcasting, and what’s ahead this fall. They swap summer stories (yes, cliff-jumping cautionary tales), introduce a new game, guessing whether a name is a church, bar, dispensary, or bank, and talk about why diverse creative voices matter for leaders and teams.

Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

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