<p>Echo writers James Copley and Phil Smith return to talk all things Sunderland ahead of the Black Cats' final game against Preston North End in the Championship.</p>

Echo writers James Copley and Phil Smith return to talk all things Sunderland ahead of the Black Cats' final game against Preston North End in the Championship.

Sunderland's accounts explained plus Watford, Preston and play-off thoughts

A weekly Sunderland AFC podcast bringing you all the latest news, views, insight and debate.

Featuring Sunderland Echo writers Phil Smith, Richard Mennear, Joe Nicholson and James Copley.

Head over to www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc for all of the latest SAFC-related news and content.

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A weekly Sunderland AFC podcast bringing you all the latest news, views, insight and debate. Featuring Sunderland Echo writers Phil Smith, Richard Mennear, Joe Nicholson and James Copley. Head over to www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc for all of the latest SAFC-related news and content.

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