Were joined by Oobah Butler, a writer, satirist and host of MTV UK's Catfish, to talk about how scamming is embedded into basically every form of online culture, and how actually, a lot of people really love to be in on the ride, even if they're the ones who are about to lose. Plus, we talk about Oobah's ongoing beef with Jeremy Vine, wherein Vine is trapped in Oobah's mind palace, with no way out.