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With 14 days left, Chuck Todd & Chris Cillizza make the argument that should scare Republicans most: corruption has climbed to the number two or three issue, and unlike any other message, it hands a lifelong conservative permission to punish his own party without admitting he was ever wrong. The evidence is already in the ad buys — Trump appeared in 47% of Republican broadcast airings in May and 1% in October — even as he opens a nine-stop closing tour in Wichita and calls the polls rigged. Chuck and Chris dig into why his Senate coattails are a myth Republicans keep believing, read the Kalshi market where an Abbott-plus-Talarico split is the likeliest Texas outcome, and unpack the five-day implosion of press secretary Katie Zacharia. Then the hardest question either of them gets: if Democrats actually sweep, what does December look like? Chuck’s answer is paralysis inside both parties, a Schumer who won’t walk away, and a president who’s less a partisan than a dealmaker. Plus Ann Hornaday, Miami at No. 1, and the cheapest World Series ticket in years.
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Timeline:
00:00 Fourteen days out and Trump’s closing tour
08:00 Corruption, the permission slip, and ad data that gives the game away
15:00 What Trump says versus what he’d actually do after polls close
21:00 Kalshi: the Texas two-race market, vouchers, and the Beshear fight
29:00 The five-day press secretary and a West Wing built to keep Trump busy
35:00 What December actually looks like if Democrats sweep
43:00 DC statehood, the scorpion and the frog, and the race to replace him
49:00 Election-night tea leaves, and whether Schumer walks away
55:00 Miami–Florida State: the double-overtime finish and No. 1 since 2002
1:01:00 A 12-team playoff, Mensah, and the Arch Manning question
1:07:00 Rays–Brewers, and an election-night announcement coming
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Three weeks out from the midterms, the richest man on earth spent a weekend laundering a fabricated story about a Senate candidate’s mental health into the mainstream — and Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza argue the desperation of it is the tell. They open on the smear campaign against James Talarico in Texas (PolitiFact rated it Pants on Fire; the Ohio facility at the center of it publicly stated he was never a patient), then widen out to what it means that Elon Musk owns both the megaphone and the checkbook — $276 million into the midterms since July. From there: whether Republicans are underestimating the size of this wave, the four-to-seven-point scandal penalty and how it prices Kansas, and a Kalshi-driven walk down the Senate ladder — why 52 seats is the bull probability case, 54 the bull possibility case, and Annie Andrews the most mispriced bet on the board. Plus three stories of an administration behaving like it expects to lose: Kimberly Guilfoyle on the brink in Athens, Hegseth’s plan to livestream a firing-squad execution with eight articles of impeachment waiting for a House that isn’t back until November 9, and DHS agents at Ilhan Omar’s door 22 days before an election.
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Timeline:
00:00 The Talarico smear and how Musk mainstreamed it
06:00 Why Texas is the whole ballgame — and the GOP’s stages of grief
12:00 Musk’s $276 million, the Soros projection, and who should control a megaphone
18:00 Kalshi: Are we underestimating the size of this wave?
22:00 The scandal penalty, candidate quality, and pricing Kansas
30:00 Walking down the Senate ladder: 52, 54, and the most mispriced race
36:00 Kimberly Guilfoyle, Scott Bessent, and monkey see, monkey do
41:00 Hegseth: the man crush, the 2006 rerun, and eight articles waiting
46:00 The televised execution, and whose information ecosystem produces it
50:00 DHS at Ilhan Omar’s door, and a DOJ that changed the protocol
54:00 Brewers-Dodgers, a top-heavy West, and why Milwaukee keeps doing this
1:02:00 Commanders’ tie, Dan Quinn’s hot seat, and hire a clock guy
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Twenty-eight days out, Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza stress-test their own assumptions: if everything points one direction, what could still be wrong? They work through all three counterfactuals — the Republican money advantage, a polling miss, and the fact that it's October 6th and not November 2nd — and find the money argument weakest, since the GOP has owned the airwaves for six weeks with no discernible movement. That sets up the episode's central frame, borrowed from Charlie Cook: this is a red undertow, not a blue wave, because the fight is happening in light-red and formerly purple states where Republicans own the status quo and there's no Democrat left to blame. The weekend's five New York Times/Siena polls back it up — Talarico at 51 in Texas, Kansas tied, and Ashley Hinson clinging to a one-point lead in the race Chuck calls the most predictive on the board. He also floats a tinfoil-hat theory about who benefits from leaked audio making Ken Paxton look ungrateful, a day before Politico published exactly that. Plus the Kalshi board and where Susan Collins is underpriced, Ted Cruz firing back at JD Vance, Flávio Bolsonaro's first-round win and what it signals about a Trump on the 2028 ballot, and Trump posting Tom Cotton's cell number over daylight saving time.
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Timeline:
00:00 Twenty-eight days out — and the case that we're all wrong
04:00 Red undertow, not blue wave: why the map explains everything
08:00 Five NYT/Siena polls, and the one race Chuck would want to know
14:00 Iowa as the tell — and the Republicans who are one turnover away
16:00 The tinfoil hat theory about Paxton, and the money pit called Texas
20:00 Talarico at 51 — the point where money stops mattering
26:00 The Kalshi board: 48 seats, Collins as the value & overpriced governors
35:00 If Collins wins, it's one of the great holds of all time
39:00 A little 2028: Vance baits Cruz, and why Rand Paul is the real threat
45:00 Night golf, $90 checks & the rise of the "meatloaf Republicans"
51:00 Bolsonaro's son wins round one — and the Trump 2028 question
53:00 Baseball playoffs, the ball off the roof & a Packers team with no line
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Thirty-five days out, Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza open on a president playing the hits: Trump spent the weekend at a football game and a golf tournament, then announced his campaign tour kicks off in Durant, Oklahoma and Mobile, Alabama — the site of his first mega-rally in 2015 — rather than anywhere control of Congress is being decided. The more consequential move was rejecting Iran's seven-day truce offer to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, an exit ramp every Republican in a tough race is publicly begging for; Brent jumped above $107 on the news. That sets up the episode's best segment: a truth-serum run through every competitive Senate race asking which Republicans would actually stand next to Trump — and why the answer across Iowa, Kansas and Nebraska is no, because the damage there is his own tariff and diesel policy. Plus the Senate Leadership Fund's $118 million bet on Ken Paxton, a candidate who's spent under $1 million himself; Fetterman's "lifelong Republican" slip; why Murkowski's calculus runs entirely through Mary Peltola; and why Chuck reads AOC's upstate tour as a Senate campaign, not a presidential one.
Timeline:
00:00 Trump kicks off in Oklahoma and Mobile — and rejects the Iran exit ramp
08:00 Truth serum: which Republicans would actually do a rally with Trump?
18:00 The $118M Paxton bet, and whether McConnell would have swerved
26:00 Triage: walking from Georgia and North Carolina, holding Maine and Ohio
30:00 Fetterman's slip, Murkowski's calculus & when party switches happen
40:00 AOC's real 2028 decision — and why Chuck reads it as the Senate
48:00 The Nats finish 77-85; why reloading is harder than it looks
54:00 The Packers, an atrocious offensive line & a pick headed to the Jets
1:03:00 Kalshi sponsorship, the 62% sweep question & Collins underpriced
1:12:00 Do your own research — and World Series wishes
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Six weeks out, Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza open on Trump's ban of CNN, MS NOW and Politico from the White House — escalated Monday when the rest of the TV pool refused to cover him without CNN. Chuck, who fought the Obama White House's attempt to cut Fox out of a pool, explains why the real story is why now: a president lashing out as he loses control everywhere else. NBC has Trump at 41%, his second-term low; the Fed just raised rates for the first time since 2023; and the three most toxic positions in NBC's message testing are the three things Trump spent the last ten days amplifying. Chuck argues everyone is probably underestimating Democrats, then turns to the party's own problems: a DNC in debt, a brand that polls worse than the GOP's, and Axios reporting that most former Harris aides don't expect her to run in 2028. Plus JB Pritzker's 80-pound GLP-1 disclosure and Jayden Daniels' devastating elbow injury.
Timeline:
00:00 Trump bans CNN, MS NOW & Politico — and how the TV pool works
06:00 Why now? A president grabbing what he can control
16:00 Toxic message tests, Iowa defections & a party running from Trump
24:00 Are we underestimating Democrats? Wave, tsunami or mirage
34:00 The Democrats' money problem — the DNC, donors & turnout groups
40:00 Is Kamala Harris running? The Malibu tell and a cycle off
48:00 Pritzker's weight loss, the Democratic brand & the rise of independents
1:00:00 Jayden Daniels, injuries & the college sports bill
1:08:00 NFL chaos, NBA predictability & the case for relegation
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Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza open with a thesis worth marking on a calendar: the next two weeks may be the most consequential stretch of the campaign. Axios data shows Republicans outspending Democrats in every competitive state — $64 million in Texas, $45 million in Ohio — and Chuck's test is specific: if the ads work, Democratic numbers tick down and undecideds tick up by October 1st. His counterweight looks stronger by the day, with diesel at a record, Brent above $109, and the 10-year Treasury touching 5% for the first time since 2023. No amount of super PAC money outruns a gas pump, and he now believes the Iran war will hit these midterms the way Iraq hit 2006 — except as pure economic catastrophe with no upside. Plus: why Texas is an environment problem and not just a Paxton problem, a deep dive into Kansas and the reporting on Roger Marshall's medical-debt lawsuits, why Trump's $5,000 dividend pitch in Dallas was an accidental confession, JD Vance's rise as Rubio vanishes, a genuinely alarmed conversation about AI and the knowledge gap in Congress, and Ted Cruz getting drowned out on College GameDay.
Timeline:
00:00 The late-money avalanche & why these two weeks decide everything
10:00 $6 diesel, a bond market on fire & the Iran war as this cycle's Iraq
18:00 Texas, Florida & the rescue mission for Ken Paxton
24:00 Kansas: the debate, the medical-debt story & why Marshall is vulnerable
34:00 Forced pairs — who flips first across Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa and Alaska
40:00 The Dallas convention: Vance rising, Rubio missing, Trump promising checks
46:00 AI, the knowledge gap in Congress & a leadership vacuum
56:00 Ted Cruz gets booed, and the case against the college sports bill
66:00 Week one signal vs. noise, monkey picks & the top five
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Eight Tuesdays out, Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza open on the first midterm convention in modern American history — two nights at Dallas's American Airlines Center with 109 speakers, Trump appearing both nights, and House members getting billed $25,000 to attend. The guys are skeptical of nearly all of it: the event lands on NFL kickoff night, it butts up against the 25th anniversary of September 11th, and Politico found 45 of 70 Republican candidates and members skipping it. Their sharper point is that the whole thing is a microcosm of the party's bind — you cannot win without the MAGA base, and you cannot win with only the MAGA base — which is why swing-state nominees like Jon Husted and Mike Rogers will show up and try very hard to deliver a forgettable speech. Chuck argues nationalizing the election isn't crazy on its own terms, since the other side is going to run against Trump anyway, but doubts Trump can hit any register besides red meat, and doubts even more that he can find a second gear for the September 11th anniversary the following day.
From there they dig into Texas, where MAGA Inc's first $10 million buy is running a half-negative, half-positive ad about taxes — a signal, Chuck says, that they know the target is suburban Romney Republicans, not the base. He walks through Greg Abbott's steadily declining margins, the four-to-eight-point scandal penalty that history says attaches to a candidate like Paxton, and lands somewhere that surprises Chris: he now likes Talarico's odds better than Sherrod Brown's in Ohio. They check the prediction markets, unpack the Missouri Supreme Court ruling that blocked the Republican-drawn map and effectively hands Emanuel Cleaver his seat back, and take apart Trump's request that the Supreme Court impose a national check on mail voting — a policy every Republican strategist will tell you privately hurts their own side. Then a long, unsparing conversation about the Wall Street Journal's reporting on John Fetterman and what it means for control of the Senate on January 3rd, a real case for a third Senate conference built around Murkowski and a possible independent, and a closing riff on Nick Saban, Pat McAfee, and why the Protect College Sports Act is doomed without collective bargaining.
Timeline:
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00:00 Eight Tuesdays out — and why they actually prepare for these now
03:00 The first midterm convention since the early '80s
04:00 $25,000 a head, and Tim Burchett's surprise invoice
05:00 It lands on the opening night of the NFL season
07:00 The Trump trap — you can't afford to say no
08:00 Nationalizing the election isn't the crazy part
11:00 The convention as a microcosm of the GOP's whole problem
13:00 "Trumpapalooza" — so what's the actual message?
14:00 Conventions aren't for swing voters, and never have been
16:00 Husted, Rogers & the art of the deliberately forgettable speech
19:00 Trump as TV producer — and the 9/11 anniversary the next day
20:00 Will he turn the 25th anniversary into a political speech?
23:00 MAGA Inc's first $10M buy lands in Texas
26:00 They tried calling Talarico weird. It didn't take.
27:00 Trump throws Paxton under the bus in the Oval
29:00 Abbott's slipping margins and the blue tsunami scenario
31:00 South Texas Latinos appear to be shifting back
33:00 Clinton lost Texas by less than she lost Iowa in 2016
34:00 Blue-collar trade unions and the industrial Midwest problem
38:00 Trump asks the Supreme Court for a national mail-voting check
39:00 The rural voters his own rule would punish hardest
42:00 Democrats at 85-88% to take the House
43:00 The Missouri ruling
46:00 Why this is anti-voter, full stop
47:00 The Senate sits at 52-48 Republican. A year ago it was 71-29.
49:00 Alaska, and Dan Sullivan's troubling primary numbers
51:00 The Wall Street Journal's Fetterman story
54:00 The practical stakes: who controls the Senate on January 3rd
55:00 Does Fetterman leave the party?
58:00 He's already built the intellectual case for walking
1:00:00 January 3rd is the whole ballgame
1:02:00 Osborn, Bodner, Banks and the independent wave
1:03:00 The real case for a third Senate conference
1:05:00 Saban and McAfee push the Protect College Sports Act
1:07:00 No labor at the table means it dies in court
1:08:00 Ashley Moody's quiet ACC poison pill
1:12:00 The Nats chase the blown-save record. Sell the team.
1:13:00 Dynastic: Finebaum on why Alabama may not run it back
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Inside ten weeks to the midterms, Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza start with the race Republicans have suddenly woken up to: Texas. With Talarico sitting on $21.5 million to Paxton's $1.75 million, Cornyn refusing to raise money in-state, and John Kennedy telling Fox News flatly that the Senate doesn't have the money budgeted for Texas, the guys argue the GOP's comfort blanket — that this is a Paxton problem, not a party problem — is wrong. Chuck's bet: no Republican on the Texas statewide ticket breaks 55%. From there they turn to the issue that's moved faster than either expected, data centers, framed by Trump's Monday Truth Social post declaring that communities rejecting them "want to end up being backwards and poor" and urging the country to "let Data Reign." Chuck and Chris place it in the rare category of issues voters force onto politicians rather than the reverse — the opioid crisis being the last one — and track the fallout from Wisconsin, where Tom Tiffany is already hitting David Crowley on it, to Shapiro and Hochul reversing course, to the blue-collar trade unions now cutting the other way.
The heart of the episode is a long strategic read of the map. The Atlantic reported Trump wants to deploy MAGA Inc's roughly $400 million on ads touting his own second term, telling voters to "pretend I'm on the ballot" — and Chuck makes the counterintuitive case that it may be defensible where the fight actually is, even as they debate whether it gooses MAGA turnout or hands independents another reason to break left. They walk the four-seat path through North Carolina, Maine, Ohio, and Alaska, why Michigan is the state that keeps Democrats up at night, and what Abdul El-Sayed's ongoing Hasan Piker problem is costing him thirty days after the primary. Chris picks Texas as the GOP's nightmare on sheer cost; Chuck picks Iowa, where three House seats, a Senate seat, and a governorship all sit on the table. Plus: the 2028er welcome in both red and blue America (it's not who you'd guess), Trump's demand that the FCC punish Kristen Welker over a single mild remark, a blistering segment on Pete Hegseth and a munitions shortage nobody in Congress seems to be asking about, and the Nats' blown ninth-inning lead as a season in miniature.
Timeline:
00:00 Inside ten weeks — and a college football appetizer
01:00 Why college football has become prime political ad real estate
02:00 The ads they spotted: anti-Whatley in NC, anti-Talarico in Texas
03:00 Republicans wake up to a real race a real money problem in Texas
04:00 The cash disparity — $21.5M for Talarico, $1.75M for Paxton
05:00 The Texas governor's race
06:00 A one-party state can't blame a party that doesn't exist
07:00 Is Paxton the problem, or is it the environment?
08:00 Trump's data center post: "let Data Reign"
10:00 Reid Wilson called data centers the sleeper issue six weeks ago
11:00 Washington is only discovering what voters have said for months
12:00 David Wallace-Wells & data centers as a vessel for tech frustration
13:00 Wisconsin: Tiffany already attacking Crowley on data centers
14:00 Big tech is the new big Pharma
15:00 The counter-trend: blue-collar trade unions saying these are jobs
16:00 Why is Trump this pro-data-center in an anti-data-center moment?
19:00 The Atlantic: Trump wants to spend the $400M and run his own campaign
20:00 "Pretend I am on the ballot"
21:00 Wave-year history: Clinton in '00, Bush in '06, Obama in '10 and '14
22:00 Where Trump can't go: Ohio, North Carolina, Maine, Michigan
23:00 The four-seat path — North Carolina, Maine, Ohio, Alaska
24:00 The fifth state problem: Iowa, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska, Montana
25:00 The Darline Graham rescue mission and what it proved
26:00 Democratic gains are a given — the question is wave or tsunami
27:00 This election is about the cost of living
28:00 Cook's toss-ups always break in one direction
31:00 What if Republicans win New Hampshire and Democrats win Texas?
34:00 The state that keeps Democrats up at night
35:00 El-Sayed is still doing cleanup thirty days after the primary
37:00 The libertarian-candidate play red-state Democrats aren't running
38:00 The Hasan Piker problem
39:00 The Detroit synagogue comment and the apology he did make
42:00 The Trump-and-white-supremacists parallel
43:00 Alaska as the wild card: ranked choice, two Sullivans, Peltola
45:00 Josh Turek is a very hard candidate to attack
47:00 Rob Sand deserves 30% of the buzz Ossoff is getting
49:00 The Obama-in-'06 comparison and the asses-in-seats metric
50:00 Newsom went to Michigan and couldn't find anyone to campaign with
52:00 Trump demands the FCC punish Kristen Welker
54:00 What the meltdown says about how fragile he is
57:00 The Maggie Haberman attack, 48 hours apart
58:00 Hegseth gets the worst week in Washington
59:00 Sean Parnell, the influencer hires & a very online secretary
1:00:00 The cabinet primary: Lutnick, RFK Jr., Gabbard
1:02:00 Are we really out of munitions after one excursion against Iran?
1:03:00 Lake Ontario gets more coverage than troops without weapons
1:05:00 The Nats blow a 2-0 ninth-inning lead to the Marlins
1:07:00 No bullpen help at the deadline, and here we are
1:07:00 Becoming Statler and Waldorf
1:08:00 Tuesday night live: the Massachusetts primary
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After last week's Democratic field audit, Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza turn to the 2028 Republicans — and find a race the markets treat as a two-man affair between JD Vance and Marco Rubio, and one that Chuck thinks is far softer than that looks. His case: no sitting vice president has been denied his party's nomination in the modern era, but Vance sits below 50% in the markets and may be the weakest heir apparent in either man's lifetime, a candidate who has never won anything without Trump carrying him. They dig into why Rubio has kept his hands remarkably clean on the Iran debacle while Vance has ended up owning it, and why Chuck thinks Rubio takes a break, makes money, and waits for 2032. From there they build out the rest of the field: the near-certainty of a Trump family candidate, Sarah Huckabee Sanders as the likeliest VP pick, Joe Lombardo as the pragmatist the party should be building around, Nikki Haley's underrated path, why Tucker Carlson's contrarianism has no Buchanan-style through line, the class of cabinet officials convinced they can do this — and a genuine, surprising case for Rand Paul as the one candidate who could credibly run against Trump's tariffs and Iran war without being an anti-Trumper.
The second half is a brutal accounting of Trump's August. With Canada moving to retaliate after the administration began enforcing 50% tariffs on a slate of Canadian goods and Mark Carney declaring his country "at war," and a temporary waiver on tariffs for 300,000 metric tons of imported ground beef drawing pushback from ranchers, Chuck argues Trump has become the single most effective partner Chuck Schumer has — turning Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, and South Dakota into live races and making life impossible for Collins, Rogers, Hinson, and Husted. They walk through the Arkansas poll showing Tom Cotton in a real race, why they think Republicans have already wasted their financial advantage, and Trump's insistence he deserves a perfect grade on the economy. Then they preview Tuesday's high-stakes South Carolina runoff between Darline Graham and Ralph Norman — a race Trump has personally invested in, with a striking stat about appointed senators in the South — before closing on the Nats' collapse and a hard look at how the front office handled CJ Abrams.
Timeline:
00:00 Last week was the Democrats — today it's the 2028 Republican field
00:40 The markets read it as a two-man race: Vance 47%, Rubio 20%
00:57 Who else clears 3%: Tucker, Trump Sr., DeSantis, Don Jr.
01:35 History says the sitting VP gets it
02:51 Vance reminds Chuck of Kamala Harris
03:19 A frontrunner with no positive track record to point to
04:05 Vance probably isn't even a senator without Trump
04:51 How much of Vance's weakness is actually Trump's decline?
06:26 If Trump loses the House and Senate, the field blows open
07:28 Why a Trump family candidacy isn't a 0% proposition
08:03 Ivanka as heir apparent? The Don Jr. vs. Eric assumption
08:44 Rubio: does he run, or take the VP slot?
10:07 Hegseth as McNamara, and Vance owning a war he questioned
10:48 How has Rubio kept his hands this clean?
12:42 The one cabinet member with no visible pay-for-play story
13:13 Chuck's prediction: Rubio sits it out, runs in 2032
14:21 Who else? A Hawley or Cotton as Trumpism 2.0
14:48 Sarah Huckabee Sanders as the most likely VP pick
15:24 Youngkin's problem, and the Huntsman-Kasich empathy lane
16:17 Spencer Cox and the never-Trump ceiling
17:59 How the war with Canada gutted the Las Vegas economy
19:30 Can a Jim Banks run against Vance?
20:42 Brian Kemp passed on the Senate to look at 2028
21:24 What do Republican primary voters even want after a wipeout?
22:11 Are we underwriting Nikki Haley?
23:45 What to make of Tucker Carlson's ten-point plan
25:37 MTG, Massie & the America First lane
27:12 Why Never Trumpers overrate his constituency
28:40 The cabinet members who all think they'll be president
30:09 The Portnoy/Cuban outsider slot
31:19 The one advantage — Vance runs the RNC's fundraising operation
34:06 The real problem for Rand Paul: he isn't likable
35:02 Tariffs and Iran — Trump's two great failures, and Paul opposed both
36:27 Under 1% on the board: the dark-horse buy
36:51 To Trump: a trade war with Canada, and more sanctions on Iran
38:20 The beef decision and what it does to midwest states
39:05 Why the Canada fight hits Vegas and Orlando hardest
40:21 Has Trump found a floor lower than Bush's?
41:41 The Arkansas poll putting Tom Cotton in a real race
42:03 Reading the methodology honestly
43:18 Donald Trump has declared war on rural America
44:55 Trump says he deserves 100% on the economy
46:22 Republicans wasted their financial advantage
47:59 Tuesday night preview: the Graham-Norman runoff
48:40 Trump calls in, rallies in Myrtle Beach t
50:16 Appointed senators survive at 44% in the South vs. 81% elsewhere
52:26 Trump's endorsement record & why he wants to reassert dominance
53:27 What a Graham loss would mean for Hinson and Husted
54:41 Why Collins doesn't want Trump in Maine
57:02 Vance as a cipher — from near-primary-loss to vice president
59:37 What has JD Vance actually done?
1:00:45 The Nats get swept by the Marlins
1:05:04 How you actually screw up a team
1:06:23 Where this front office is genuinely excellent
1:07:48 It's still a people business, just like politics
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With under 80 days to the midterms, Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza pause the horse race for a full "where are we now" audit of the 2028 Democratic field — prompted, Chris admits, by listener pushback that they'd been too dismissive of Gavin Newsom. Using the Kalshi and Polymarket odds as a starting point rather than gospel, they work through a top tier of AOC, Newsom, and Jon Ossoff. Chuck's central thesis is that AOC could become a magnetic force on the scale of Trump in 2016 or Obama in 2008 — a candidacy the entire field gets measured against, potentially freezing out half the governors and senators eyeing a run. He maps how she could be the frontrunner while playing underdog in South Carolina, and why the new calendar's crowded first state may actually cushion her. On Newsom, Chuck is blunt: the prediction markets are artificially inflating him, the attention economy is doing the work, and a California governor with a mixed record has no obvious state to win. They also make the case that Kamala Harris ultimately doesn't run — and that not running is the smarter play for 2032.
The back half turns to the field's second tier and its long shots: whether Mark Kelly has the hunger and the issue to go with the biography (Chuck's dream ticket: Kelly and Warnock, order randomized), why John Glenn and Bill Bradley are the cautionary tales for résumé candidates, whether Ossoff can realistically jump straight from an $87 million Senate race into a billion-dollar presidential campaign, and a genuine dark-horse case for Rahm Emanuel built on the party's underinvestment in rural Black voters. They preview Tuesday's Florida primary — Byron Donalds's real ceiling, why Chuck thinks the general could land inside five points, the Mel Martinez precedent, and Corey Mills, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and Alex Vindman. Then the tone shifts hard: an angry, unsparing exchange about the expired US-Iran memorandum, the Strait of Hormuz, conditions aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, and Pete Hegseth's fitness for the job.
Timeline:
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00:00 Under 80 days out — and a full 2028 Democratic audit
01:06 Why Chuck thinks JD Vance will divide the right
02:08 The prediction markets as one data point, not the whole story
02:55 Reading Polymarket and Kalshi: AOC, Newsom, Ossoff at the top
05:12 Could AOC suck up all the oxygen the way Trump did in '16?
06:15 The egg-freezing story as proof of her magnetic pull
06:42 Skeptical Newsom can play in Michigan, Iowa, South Carolina
07:30 The impossible position for Newsom
08:16 AOC's advantage — no long record to defend
09:38 Could egg-freezing access become an issue she champions?
10:01 How her presence could paralyze half the field before it starts
10:57 Where does that leave Pritzker? Or Ossoff?
11:59 The formalized DNC calendar
13:37 Nevada, Michigan and the Culinary Union question
14:42 Why a crowded South Carolina helps the progressive lane
15:13 What 2020 looked like when South Carolina came fourth
15:49 Newsom's real problem: where does he actually win?
16:59 Harris's East Coast headquarters lesson
17:22 Advice: put your HQ in Michigan, not San Francisco
19:42 The counterargument: no gatekeepers left, and the hustler wins
20:10 Ossoff, Buttigieg & who's actually willing to burn the boats
21:08 Newsom one-on-one vs. Newsom in a big room
22:08 Would a swing-state Democrat invite Newsom to campaign?
23:04 Harris analysis: you don't buy in Malibu if you're running
24:06 The Dan Quayle risk if she runs under these circumstances
25:01 Newsom and Harris can't both run
26:20 Mark Kelly in Iowa & the quote that reads like a stump speech
27:15 Chuck's lab-built ticket: an astronaut and a pastor
27:50 Will the Democratic base accept Kelly?
29:30 Is Kelly too pro-business for this version of the party?
30:45 How Trump's attacks on Kelly may have helped him
31:33 The real gap: Kelly has no signature issue
32:03 AOC is the change candidate — inside the party and outside it
33:09 Biographies don't win the presidency
33:30 The cautionary tales: John Glenn and Bill Bradley
35:08 The charisma gap — and Kelly's habit of yelling to show energy
35:55 Scanning the long shots on the board
36:55 If not AOC, then Ro Khanna
37:16 Pritzker at 1% — the governor who could reach the left
37:46 Chuck's real dark horse: Rahm Emanuel
39:32 Democrats' rural problem isn't just rural whites
39:59 The left will never accept him
42:07 Not a cycle for an insider — but maybe for an ideas guy
42:27 The Wisconsin lesson: Crowley won against something
42:50 To Florida: Tuesday's primary and Tuesday night's live stream
43:35 Jolly-Donalds could land inside five points
44:01 Why Florida isn't as noncompetitive as people assume
44:44 Could DeSantis win a third term?
45:24 What's Donalds's real number?
46:16 The Mel Martinez precedent
48:29 Why Chuck thinks Jerry Demings had the better shot at Donalds
49:56 The 2018 what-if: Bernie, Soros, Gillum and DeSantis
50:43 Credit to DeSantis for saying what Trump never does
51:48 Debbie Wasserman Schultz in a majority-Black district
52:38 The Vindman question — and the residency problem
54:23 The US-Iran memorandum expires with no deal
55:46 A $1.5 trillion budget and a carrier crew that can't get fed
56:11 Testosterone tests and push-up contests while the Lincoln goes short
56:33 Operationally a disaster — and where's the audit?
57:57 Damaging the last institution still standing
59:51 The Nats get swept by the Mets
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