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In this episode of Surfing Your Edge, Kristine Goad sits down with retired educator, coach, and creator Pam to explore what it means to keep growing, experimenting, and creating at every stage of life. Pam shares how her experiences with teaching, coaching, self-compassion, podcasting, and entrepreneurship have unfolded one small step at a time — often without a clear roadmap.
Together, they talk about the courage to try new things, the challenge of putting your work into the world when no one seems to be responding, and why self-care is an active expression of self-compassion. Pam also reflects on curiosity, aging, finding purpose beyond retirement, and the importance of making the most of the moment you’re in.
Highlights:
Pam encourages people to explore what they love, what they wonder about, and what they are good at, while remembering to appreciate the moment they are in.
- Growth doesn’t stop with age or retirement
- Big changes often happen one small step at a time
- Self-care is an expression of self-compassion
- Curiosity and presence can help guide your next chapter
- Creating and sharing your work requires persistence
About Pam Van Nest:
Pam Van Nest, a Self-Care Coach with PVN Coaching, helps women over 40 face the inner voices of perfectionism, self-doubt and second guessing to reconnect with what matters and make meaningful choices about their next chapter. With 38 years of experience as a teacher and instructional coach across Maine, Honduras, and Ontario, she is a certified CTI and ICF coach. She created the oracle card deck Making The Time and hosts the Making the Time podcast. Creative moments find her sewing, kayaking, sketching, painting, and biking.
She respectfully acknowledges that she lives on the territory of the Michi Saagiig, and the ancestral lands of the Anishinaabeg and the traditional territory covered by the Williams' Treaties. She is aware of the privileges of being a cis gender, able bodied, white woman and continues to work to decolonize her practice, staying open to new learning, and sharing her gifts.
Connect with Pamela Van Nest:
Website: https://www.pvncoaching.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelavannestempowermentcoach/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pvncoaching/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pamela.vannest/
Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-the-time-well-being-through-compassionate-self-care/id1896495056?l=zh-Hans-CN
Pamela’s Gift for you:
Heart Meditation: 3 minutes to relax your body, quiet your mind, and expand your heart any time you need a reset.
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About the Host:
Kristine Goad is endlessly curious about the moment when “I could never” becomes “What if I tried?” As the Surfing Your Edge Coach, she helps people transform their relationship with fear, trust themselves more deeply, and create lives that feel bigger, bolder, and more fully their own. Her approach blends coaching, adventure, experimentation, and wonder—shaped by experiences that include participating in the largest cross-country bicycle event in U.S. history, writing a memoir, building a business, and taking surf lessons to face her fear of open water in her late 40s. She is less interested in fearless living than in what becomes possible when we get curious about the things that scare us.
Connect with Kristine:
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Website: https://kristinegoad.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kristinegoad
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KristineGoad
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinegoad
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kristine.goad
Kristine’s gift for you:
Surf Your Edge: From Fear to Freedom
This complete chapter from Confident You: The Raw Conversations traces two adventures, twenty years apart, and explores fear, identity, and why the real work of a life-changing experience begins after you come home.
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