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So many of us set big resolutions and think, “this year, I’ll finally stick with self-care”... only to get steamrolled by old patterns, client demands, or that sneaky voice insisting five seconds of breathwork doesn’t “count.” We get it—and we’ve done more than our share of Monday-morning resets, chasing motivation until burnout finally called our bluffs. The real shift? Ditching the all-or-nothing mindset and actually embracing what nervous-system regulation looks like: tiny, doable actions that build self-trust, not shame.

This episode isn’t about overhauling your life or getting “perfect.” Instead, Gretchen and Kelsy put real talk behind January’s Sustainable Self-Care Bingo challenge—micro habits that can fit into the messiest seasons, even if you’re running on fumes. These aren’t silver bullets, but think of them as proof that the smallest boundaries, the shortest moments of presence, and the quietest acts of kindness toward yourself are enough to start rewiring your brain and your workday. It’s not about smashing the overwhelm in January—it’s about making space for the kind of change you might actually keep.

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The ideas and techniques shared by our guests on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast are their own unique perspectives and don’t necessarily reflect those of Gretchen Popp or the Sustainable Bodyworker team or community as a whole.

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Who am I to raise my prices, teach a class, or even call myself an expert? If those thoughts have ever circled your mind louder than clients on a Friday night waitlist, you’re not alone—Gretchen lays it all bare in this episode. She shares the very real, not-so-glamorous side of growing beyond what you ever thought possible (and what happens when a “You’ll never make any money doing that” moment from your past tries to call the shots years later). Instead of hustling for confidence or waiting for the imposter feelings to disappear, Gretchen offers simple, nervous-system friendly shifts: name what’s happening, zoom out beyond your inner critic, and take one tiny action—because real confidence is built, not inherited.

Whether imposter syndrome has you procrastinating, scrolling, or losing sleep, you’ll hear reminders that you are not broken and you don’t need to “think positive” your way out of growth. Sometimes, the fact that your brain is screaming may just mean you’re on the very edge of something meaningful.

Click HERE to sign up for our Sustainable Bodyworker Bingo Challenge for 2026! 

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If you’ve got a story, skill, or insight you think would help other bodyworkers, we’d love to hear from you — click here to apply to be a guest on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast.

The ideas and techniques shared by our guests on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast are their own unique perspectives and don’t necessarily reflect those of Gretchen Popp or the Sustainable Bodyworker team or community as a whole.

Click HERE for your FREE Mindset Shift hypnotherapy session with Gretchen!

If you’re still wondering why your hands and shoulders ache after every deep tissue session—no matter how precisely you “fix” your body mechanics—it’s not because you’re doing something wrong. This conversation with Jim Funk and Kelsy Filler goes straight to the heart of what so many of us never heard in massage school: the mythical “low table, squat all day” advice isn’t actually the answer for longevity.

Jim Funk breaks down how he had to unlearn years of pain and “muscling through” (sound familiar?), and take a totally different approach with his forearm fusion work—one that actually leaves you with energy at the end of the day. The raw honesty about burnout, sneaky patterns of overgiving, and the constant practice of boundary-setting feels like a relief. If you need permission to work smarter, not harder—and to stop sacrificing your body for your clients—this one will hit home.

To attend Jim’s Forearm Fusion course, click HERE, or come see what CE classes are being held at The Academy of Massage Therapy & Bodywork HERE. 

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If you’ve got a story, skill, or insight you think would help other bodyworkers, we’d love to hear from you — click here to apply to be a guest on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast.

The ideas and techniques shared by our guests on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast are their own unique perspectives and don’t necessarily reflect those of Gretchen Popp or the Sustainable Bodyworker team or community as a whole.

Click HERE for your FREE Mindset Shift hypnotherapy session with Gretchen!

Get your FREE Mindset Shift hypnotherapy session with Gretchen HERE!

Are things in your treatment room feeling a little… off? A low-key unsettled vibe you can’t quite name, but your nervous system absolutely picks up on? Turns out, the space itself is doing way more of the heavy lifting than most of us realize. Gretchen Popp gets honest about how she barely used to think about her massage room beyond the basics—until talking with Jamie Smith left her wheels spinning all week about the real impact of design on work, rest, creativity, and client care.

The most powerful shift? Recognizing that your environment shapes everything—from how safe clients feel to whether you leave work each day depleted or actually regulated. You’ll walk away seeing your clutter, lighting, linens, and workflow in a totally new light (and maybe give yourself permission to upgrade the table or toss that ancient salt lamp). Forget perfection—start with what drains or nourishes you most. Regulation and calm don’t just happen; you can build them right into your space, one intentional choice at a time.

Click HERE to work with Jamie on revamping your treatment space! 

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If you’ve got a story, skill, or insight you think would help other bodyworkers, we’d love to hear from you — click here to apply to be a guest on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast.

The ideas and techniques shared by our guests on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast are their own unique perspectives and don’t necessarily reflect those of Gretchen Popp or the Sustainable Bodyworker team or community as a whole.

Click HERE for your FREE Mindset Shift hypnotherapy session with Gretchen!

This shortened track is adapted from a longer, in-depth hypnotherapy session available inside The Sustainable Bodyworker Membership, where you’ll find an entire library of custom hypnotherapy tracks created specifically for massage therapists and bodyworkers.

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If you’re someone who finds gratitude tough when everything feels heavy — or worries that you’re “doing it wrong” — you’ll find real relief here. Tiny, regular practices aren’t just fluff; they literally retrain your brain, replenish your emotional reserves, and help you start seeing the small wins when life gets hard. This one’s full of practical shifts you can use right away, from a simple morning practice to a soothing visualization you’ll actually want to return to, especially when you need some grounding before a client or after a long day. Gratitude, reimagined — no performance required.

Click HERE for your FREE Mindset Shift hypnotherapy session with Gretchen!

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Swanwick Glasses: Scientifically tested and proven to improve your sleep.

InHarmony Meditation Mats: Use code NEURO5 for 5% off!

Global Cupping: Use code NEURO for 20% off your first order!

If you’ve got a story, skill, or insight you think would help other bodyworkers, we’d love to hear from you — click here to apply to be a guest on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast.

The ideas and techniques shared by our guests on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast are their own unique perspectives and don’t necessarily reflect those of Gretchen Popp or the Sustainable Bodyworker team or community as a whole.

Stuck in the burnout trap even after trying all the "right" self-care? You’re not alone. Gretchen Popp pulls back the curtain on what healing from burnout—especially that chronic, nervous system kind—really looks like, and spoiler: it’s not a straight line or a magic overnight fix. She shares real stories from her own years-long journey with fibromyalgia, fatigue, and self-sabotage, getting honest about the messy process of figuring out what actually works and what just piles on more guilt.

What shifts things isn’t perfection, but tiny, ridiculously doable habits—like leaving a glass of water by the bed, sitting on the yoga mat for just a minute, or tackling whatever actually has the least resistance. If you’ve been stuck waiting to feel motivated before starting something new (and then beating yourself up for failing), this episode is a permission slip to get real about how habit change, nervous system safety, and even hypnotherapy can help you stay out of that burnout spiral—for good. Consistency doesn’t mean perfect; it just means you keep coming back, one small decision at a time.

Click HERE for your FREE Mindset Shift hypnotherapy session with Gretchen!

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If you’ve got a story, skill, or insight you think would help other bodyworkers, we’d love to hear from you — click here to apply to be a guest on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast.

The ideas and techniques shared by our guests on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast are their own unique perspectives and don’t necessarily reflect those of Gretchen Popp or the Sustainable Bodyworker team or community as a whole.

Get your FREE Mindset Shift hypnotherapy session with Gretchen HERE!

If you ever catch yourself scrolling online, eyeing another massage therapist’s business, and thinking, “Well, she must have some magic gene I just don’t”? Trust me, you’re not alone—and honestly, that lie is one of the biggest blocks to real sustainability. In this episode, Gretchen Popp brings on Jessica Curtis, who’s as down-to-earth as they come, and unpacks what it’s really like to build something visible without burning out, freak out about cringey old videos, and still struggle with imposter syndrome no matter how successful things look from the outside.

There’s so much truth here about showing up imperfectly, letting go of “expert energy,” and leaning into the messy, ongoing process—because actual growth isn’t about polish, it’s about staying curious, setting boundaries, and learning to trust yourself (and your nervy little brain) enough to keep moving forward. If you’re feeling behind, burnt-out, or like you’re missing something everyone else has, this one’s your permission slip to just start where you are and create your own definition of success.

If you’d like to explore more of Jessica’s work, click here, or follow her on Instagram!

Click HERE for your FREE Mindset Shift hypnotherapy session with Gretchen!

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Swanwick Glasses: Scientifically tested and proven to improve your sleep.

InHarmony Meditation Mats: Use code NEURO5 for 5% off!

Global Cupping: Use code NEURO for 20% off your first order!

If you’ve got a story, skill, or insight you think would help other bodyworkers, we’d love to hear from you — click here to apply to be a guest on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast.

The ideas and techniques shared by our guests on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast are their own unique perspectives and don’t necessarily reflect those of Gretchen Popp or the Sustainable Bodyworker team or community as a whole.

As we move into November, the energy naturally begins to slow. The days shorten, the air cools, and everything around us invites a deeper inward turn — a time to rest, reflect, and reconnect with what matters most.

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If you’ve ever resisted delegating, felt stuck playing every role in your business, or found yourself questioning whether it’s okay to admit you need help, this conversation is your permission slip. It’s not about finding the perfect productivity system—it’s about getting honest with yourself, setting down the guilt, and learning the art of building a business that works with your real life, not against it. Expect practical mindset shifts around capacity, realistic planning, and the kind of self-parenting that lets you serve from a place of true fullness (instead of scraping by).

Check out Spa Ninjas to book a connection call with Ezralea and explore more of her work! 

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Click HERE for your FREE Mindset Shift hypnotherapy session with Gretchen!

If you’ve got a story, skill, or insight you think would help other bodyworkers, we’d love to hear from you — click here to apply to be a guest on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast.

The ideas and techniques shared by our guests on the Sustainable Bodyworker Podcast are their own unique perspectives and don’t necessarily reflect those of Gretchen Popp or the Sustainable Bodyworker team or community as a whole.