After reading about correctional officer Vicky White helping inmate Casey White escape from prison, Dee wonders if Kate would do the same. Interview with author Toby Dorr who helped inmate and lover John Manard escape from a Kansas prison in a dog crate. Aussie cop calls in about a recent suicide. Sign up for the Sick and Wrong Patreon to hear the Second Show and bonus minisode Overkill.

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