Dee and Kate discuss the origin of conversion therapy and how it became monetized and rebranded by evangelical Christians who use techniques such as hypnosis, counseling, exorcisms, and arousal reconditioning in their attempts to pray the gay away. Hot Liz Short calls in to complain about motherhood. Sign up for the Sick and Wrong Patreon to hear Second Show, SW archives, and the bonus minisode Serial Killer Star Signs.