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- Ep 39: Chandan Pandey & Sayari Debnath: Stories of desolation & translation(Audio in Hindi & English)
In this interview, Chandan Pandey, the award-winning author of the The Keeper of Desolation, published by HarperCollins India, and translator Sayari Debnath, talk about the “surreal yet gritty, violent yet poetic” stories that form the book and the importance of translating from regional languages.
He recalls breaking down, sitting in a boat in Varanasi, after writing the haunting short story “Forgetting”, an exploration of inner family dynamics where one member is forgotten by the rest of the household. Meanwhile, “The Decision” was born of a desire to weave a story around his fascination for the name Mausam, given to the protagonist. Pandey, based in Bengaluru, whose stories are set in the heart of small town India, finds himself immensely rooted in memories of his hometown Deoria as he grows older. Listen in!
Chandan Pandey is the author of four short-story collections and two novels in Hindi. He has been honoured with the Bharatiya Jnanpith’s Navlekhan Award, the Vanmali Yuva Katha Samman, the Shabd Chhaap Samman, and is a recipient of the Krishna Baldev Vaid Fellowship. The translation of his acclaimed debut novel, Vaidhanik Galp, was published in English as Legal Fiction in 2021."
Sayari Debnath translates from Hindi and Bengali into English. She is a culture journalist at Scroll where she writes about books, literary trends and art.
Timestamps
01:18 Staying away from happy endings
04:40 Sayari on translating Chandan’s stories
07:36 On the story “Forgetting”
16:45 Sayari’s favourite story ‘The Mathematics of Life’
18:53 The Keeper of Desolation on a lady who loses her ring; Chandan on why there are no more “professional” thieves
22:17 His connection to Deoria, his hometown; stories from small towns
28:32 Are Hindi writers more connected to the grassroots?
33:00 Translating from regional languages and the difference in tones
37:15 The connection to the past and role of memories
43:40 The book is a selection of his stories from 4 volumes
45:13 Finding time and the motivation to write
48:45 Sayari on the fun of translation, and the challenges
59:00 Chandan’s writing influences; his love for reading
01:02:40 The scope for translation as a career in India
01:11:56 Urdu writer Sayyed Mohammad Ashraf’s “Aakhri Sawariya”
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Dr. Erika Rosenberg is a Founding Faculty at the Compassion Institute, a non-profit devoted to promoting compassion education worldwide. She co-authored the Compassion Cultivation Training program with Thupten Jinpa and others in 2009 at Stanford University. She is part of the faculty at The Nyingma Institute in Berkeley. She is also a world-renowned expert in facial expression, who trains and consults on facial measurement using the Facial Action Coding System .
References:- Online Compassion Cultivation Training with Erika Rosenberg October 2024
- How to Practise Tonglen Meditation by Pema Chödrön
- Pema Chödrön’s essay “Transforming the heart of suffering”
- Roshi Joan Halifax - Strong Back, Soft Front
01:23 Erika’s journey into meditation and Tonglen, discovering Buddhism
10:00 The Compassion Cultivation Training (CCT)
11:55 How Tonglen is transformational
15:23 The four stages of Tonglen; cultivating active compassion
19:00 The neuroscience of helping; a mental rehearsal
21:37 Does Tonglen make a difference to the other person or recipient?
26:44 Two lived personal examples of Tonglen
33:36 Pema Chodron and “Tonglen as you go”
40:00 A preliminary Tonglen meditation practice
45:23 Learning acceptance; acknowledging what is present
48:25 Tonglen intensive workshop by Erika
51:00 “Lojong” slogans
53:39 Skills to deal with mind wandering
54:50 Meta cognitive awareness; mindfulness of mind
57:17 Her expertise in facial expression and emotion (Facial Action Coding System – FACS)
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A part of the LGBTQI+ community, Fernando faced bullying as a child, along with other adversities. His first encounter with psilocybin or magic mushrooms, he recalls, left him feeling lightheaded and with a sense of abundance, realising for the first time how it felt to be mentally healthy.
He also quotes modern breakthroughs in psychedelic research led by esteemed institutions such as Johns Hopkins and Imperial College London, on the healing and mind-enhancing capabilities of Plant Psychedelic Medicine. While mentioning the beneficial effects in alleviating depression and anxiety, he cautions that the session should be conducted in a controlled setting, following strict safety protocols, after consulting with a medical expert and with the correctly prescribed dosage, in keeping with the laws of the specific country or region. Certain drugs, such as antidepressants, may also interfere with the process, therefore, expert guidance is essential.
Fernando is also the founder of Ignite Global, Evolving Temple, Awaken Mind Guide and the Global Center for Reflective Practices & Consciousness – a group of organisations dedicated for healing and mind development. Currently, he is pursuing a postgraduate degree in Counseling Psychology and conducts research, focusing on “Psilocybin-Assisted Therapy Integrated Coaching in Treating Childhood Trauma”.
His message? “Let’s be open-minded; every powerful resource has positive and negative impact, it’s important we pay attention and recognise the possibilities.”
Timestamps:
01:15 Talking about psilocybin or magic mushrooms as part of Fernando’s life coaching practice
07:25 How Fernando discovered the “power” of magic mushrooms16:00 Understanding our default mode network and sense of identity
24:25 Does the experience help you discover who you are?
31:10 Comparing the effect of psilocybin to meditation; experiencing altered states of consciousness
45:00 Dosing and micro-dosing
56:26 Fernando as a “wounded healer”, healing from the adversities of his early life
01:02:54 Overcoming adversity in his early life; facing bullying and assault as part of the LGBTQI+ community
01:05:45 His first encounter with plant medicine, waking up with a feeling of abundance
01:10:00 Fungi as the most powerful ecosystem on earth
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In her research spanning early texts such as the Harivamsa, Bhagavata Purana and the poet Jayadeva’s Gita Govinda, Tracy explores Krishna in various shades, including his playful divinity and the “viraha-bhakti” or the longing of separation he inspires, which is akin to becoming one with the universal divine.
A scholar of Hinduism and its traditions of bhakti (or devotion), especially Krishna-bhakti in the Sanskrit epics and purāṇas, her teaching and research addresses issues of women, men, and gender in religion and society. Tracy has also been the Editor in Chief of Oxford Bibliographies--Hinduism since 2016.
Timestamps
01:00 What drew Tracy to studying Sanskrit and the Hindu “bhakti” tradition; being intrigued by poet Jayadeva's Gita Govinda
05:00 “Kama” (desire) vs “prem” (selfless love): What the early Sanskrit texts say in relation to Krisna, Radha and the gopis
09:50 Krishna as the “Yogeshwara” of Bhagavata Purana vs the sensuous lover of Gita Govinda
13:14 ‘Yoga in action’: Krishna’s “karma yoga” vs Buddha’s renunciation
20:00 The Bhagavad Gita places everyday actions in a larger context, as part of a greater cosmic plan
25:00 Krishna’s childhood, his relationship with both his mothers; the supreme god conceived as a human in the early texts
31:15 Krishna as a symbol of women’s empowerment; loves women just as they are
46:50 Play is an essential part of his divinity, signifying divine freedom and inspiring “bhakti”
52:46 “Viraha bhakti” as devotion during separation, embodied by Radha and the gopis
58:14 There is no Krishna bhakti without suffering
01:05:28 Happy Janmashtami!
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What makes India the suicide capital of the world? Did you know that a majority of suicide attempts are made by women, among which housewives figure in large numbers? Mumbai-based Sachin Chitambaran, who started as a volunteer on suicide prevention helplines over a decade ago and now works full-time in the field, talks to us about the importance of mental health, how suicidal ideation works as well as why we need to learn how to listen better and be ready to accept help from others.
The founder of the Connect Hut, Sachin is a passionate mental health advocate with over 13 years of dedicated experience in the field of suicide prevention. Sachin is also Assistant Director of Training and Development at Samaritans Mumbai, a 30-year-old suicide prevention helpline and President of Befrienders India, where he oversees a network of 14 suicide helplines operating nationwide. He also runs his unique Dot Listening workshops.
Timestamps:
00:50 Introduction to Sachin and Connect Hut
07:00 Offering affordable therapy, with free preliminary sessions
09:00 Why it’s important to pick the right therapist
11:40 How Indians listen; good at reading non-verbal cues and intuitive listening
19:38 His “Dot Listening” programme
34:30 Working on the suicide prevention helpline
38:00 Not playing God; “We suffer with our callers”
43:00 India as the suicide capital
52:00 We’re not taught to focus on ourselves; setting boundaries
59:00 Women and mental health; higher suicide attempts by women; endometritis as a trigger in the girl child
01:08:24 Pressure on housewives
01:14:00 Need to build human connection
01:16:52 How suicidal ideation works
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Want to be a guest on Swishing Mindsets with Anuradha Varma? Send Anuradha Varma a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1750746513391971e921bbda51 hr 31 min - Ep 34: Mital Salia: Game therapist and unschooling momIn this episode, Mital Salia, game therapist and founder of Khel Khel Mein talks about how she prescribes games to teach life skills and for mental wellbeing. A counselling psychologist and educator, she started by curating game nights at home, which were a huge hit. Certain games, whether solo or multiplayer, teach dexterity, stimulate brain function and raise EQ, she informs.
Playing also releases feel good hormones dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin, while reducing cortisol, the stress hormone. Games, like physical sports, also teach children to deal with failure gracefully and bounce back for the next round, says Mital.
The Mumbai-based therapist talks about travelling through India, particularly villages in south India, coming across ancient games etched on temple floors. In one Madurai household, she discovered the mathematical game Pallanguzhi (an Indian version of Mancala) being played by generations of women.
Mital also pulled her son, now 21, out of school at the age of 14 as it was not giving him any real life skills. She talks about sending him to live on a Bengaluru farm to explore his interest in reptiles, besides pursuing scuba diving and snowboarding.
Mital is the author of Game Your Mind - All about Game Therapy: Reshape Your Skills and Emotions; Become a Better Version of Yourself by Playing Games as well as Practical Handbook on Brain Fitness: Ways to Reverse The Age of The Brain.
Here are some of her all-time favourite games:
Find it First or Spot It, Top That, Dr Eureka, Marble Solitaire, the Hide and Seek series, Traffic Hour or Rush Hour, Brainvita, Nine Men Morris, Splendour, Seven Wonders, Wingspan, Century: Spice Road and Coup. She recommends neuroscience-based online portals such as Lumosity, Brain HQ and Einstein Riddle.
Listen in!
Timestamps:
00:40 What is a game therapist?
03:25 From counselling psychologist to education and game therapy
07:43 Organising game nights at home
13:15 Getting to know people’s social and emotional intelligence through games
16:00 Happy hormones released through playing games
18:53 Games for families
22:50 Impact of game therapy workshops
27:00 Board games for strategizing, warfare, entrepreneurship
30:30 Pallanghuzhi, the mathematical game from the villages of Tamil Nadu
33:39 Travelling through south India to research ancient games
38:47 Pros and cons of video games
42:35 Decision to unschool her son
50:52 Message for adults and kids on board games
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Want to be a guest on Swishing Mindsets with Anuradha Varma? Send Anuradha Varma a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1750746513391971e921bbda553 min - Ep 33: Nidhu B. Kapoor: How to manifest moneyWe make money everyday and not just at our jobs, according to Nidhu B Kapoor. And we can create more of it using the power of her “WORDS” (World of Retrograde Decrees Switchsentences), she assures. While the results, Nidhu promises, are instantaneous, attracting money has a lot to do with who we are. In this chat, she urges us to question our relationship and belief system regarding money. And yes, she also gives some powerful “switch sentences”, such as “What If”, to unleash the power of positive manifestation. Her decrees, says the WORD doctor, can be adapted to life issues, health problems or even to repair a geyser. It’s no wonder that actor Vidya Balan has her on a speed dial.
Listen in as Nidhu generously shows us how we can, well, attract money into our lives using her decrees!
Time-stamps:
02:00 Making the shift
09:26 Speed as her USP; the two types of people who show up for a money workshop
18:10 Light medicine and Nidhu’s decrees
21:30 Safety is paramount in manifesting money
25:00 Work doesn’t always mean a job
31:20 Our associations with money
36:00 If a Rs 5 crore cheque arrives, what will you do?
42:50 The making of money is very different from getting it
45:25 Two-word medicine to attract money: “What if…”
53:50 The mind thinks in words; releasing blockages
1:01:16 The four-word medicine: “You can leave now”
01:08:10 The Vidya Balan association; what W.O.R.D Medicine means
01:13:30 How it works with Nidhu
01:15:50 Adapting decrees to life issues
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Want to be a guest on Swishing Mindsets with Anuradha Varma? Send Anuradha Varma a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1750746513391971e921bbda51 hr 23 min - Ep 32: Jerry Pinto: 'Murder in Mahim' — Mumbai is like an open-air casino“Mumbai is like a large open-air casino and we are all putting our stakes on something,” says author Jerry Pinto, whose 2018 novel Murder in Mahim has been made into a series, playing on Jio Cinema.
The action begins when a gay sex worker is found dead, his stomach ripped open, in a toilet at a Mumbai railway station. The plot thickens as good friends Peter Fernandes (played by Ashutosh Rana in the series), a retired journalist and Shiva Jende ((played by Vijay Raaz), a cop piece the clues together even as the body count keeps rising. It also leads Peter into uncharted territory, navigating “gay Mumbai” and coming to terms with the fact that his son may be queer. In some delightful cameos, we have Leslie, a flamboyant and ageing gay man and Unit, a young upwardly mobile sex worker.
The book, he says, was born out of anger when the Supreme Court reversed the Delhi High Court ruling decriminalising gay sex in 2016. However, on September 6, 2018, the apex court partially struck down Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code, decriminalising same-sex relations between consenting adults.
Listen in as Pinto talks about how we exist on the spectrum of possibilities and whether we can look forward to more peter-Jende thrillers!
Chapters:
01:03 The book was born out of anger, before homosexual sex was decriminalised
04:00 Eating what he wrote as a child
05:17 Characters Peter Fernandes and Shiva Jende first appeared in the Mumbai Noir anthology; the author as an observer
09:10 “Would you welcome having an LGBTQI child?”
14:50 When a Dalit friend came home for dinner
21:30 The visual thrill of the human body
23:06 His own discovery of “gay Mumbai”: Research is other people
25:35 Many layers to gay sexuality
28:50 Mumbai is like a large open-air casino; physical vs abstract intelligence
34:10 “We are a parade of possibilities”
37:30 Jerry as “Jotin Perry”; writing an honest cop
41:50 More Peter-Jende mysteries?
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Want to be a guest on Swishing Mindsets with Anuradha Varma? Send Anuradha Varma a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1750746513391971e921bbda545 min - Ep 31: Women’s motorbike coach Meghna Khanna: “I like the wind in my hair”Meghna Khanna, a Bengaluru-based women’s motorcycle coach, is a Limca Book of Records holder for being the first Indian woman motorcyclist to reach Khardung La, the highest motorable pass in the world. You can have the biggest car in the world, but nothing beats the feeling of the wind in your hair when you ride a bike, she says. “When you ride a motorcycle, you know why a dog sticks their head out of the car,” she remarks.
For her 10-year-old daughter, it’s a surprise when she sees her father park the bike, “Oh, he knows how to ride too?” Begging her dad to teach her to start a scooter when she was barely a teen, Meghna’s story of the first bike she fell in love with — and later owned — is serendipitous with meeting her husband.
While she goes with the flow, running Levitate, a craft store for 18 years, a preloved store for fashion finds and starting the “Bindi Project”, her passion lies in riding her 1994 Royal Enfield Bullet through dirt roads and forest trails. Listen in!
Chapters:
01:00 Her love for bikes started at age 12
06:20 Her first bike – the Enfield 1994 Bullet — and meeting her husband
10:00 No fear when biking; driving as a new mom
13:20 The Khardung La journey, navigating hairpin bends
23:35 Motorcycling is a solo journey
29:20 Helping hand from bikers
34:10 Coaching across age groups
37:25 Driving responsibly; her dad’s advice
39:20 Stories of women riders
44:38 Wearing many hats
47:10 Moving from Mumbai and starting Levitate in Bangalore
53:43 How preloved works
57:15 Empowering women
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Want to be a guest on Swishing Mindsets with Anuradha Varma? Send Anuradha Varma a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1750746513391971e921bbda51 hr 1 min - Ep 30: Mindful leader Nitesh Batra: The mind is clear & knowingLiving with a negative thought is like chasing a rodent in the house, according to Nitesh Batra, Mindfulness teacher and Certified Compassion Cultivation Trainer (CCT). He is founder of The Mindful Initiative and also runs the Ashtanga Yoga Program in Bengaluru.
Mindfulness, he explains, is focussing on the task at hand, cherishing what you are doing and practising non-judgement. “When you are washing the dishes, wash the dishes,” he remarks. The mind, he says, is clear and knowing. If you sit in stillness, it’ll become calm and you can look through it.
For leaders, he recommends practising to be calm in the eye of the storm to give out the right energy. He also talks about practising compassion on the go, “Be kinder, more loving, more compassionate and it will reflect in the world around you; something subtle shifts in our mind and life is a lot more joyous.”
He emphasises, “We need to put in the effort; without it, nothing will happen.” Simply start by sitting still for a minute in a day, setting a gentle intention.
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Chapters:
01:00 Guided meditation
05:40 Explaining the concept of mindfulness
11:10 Accepting negative emotions in mindfulness – good stress vs bad stress
26:58 The Bhagavad Gita and the power of Om
29:02 We need to put in the effort
32:34: The neuroscience of mindfulness; prefrontal cortex vs the fear centre
36:30 Response vs reaction
38:40 Does mindfulness make us live in denial of problems?
44:45 On his mindfulness for effective leadership workshop with Prof Dinesh Kumar at IIM Bangalore
52:14 Compassion cultivation training and the Stanford course; how compassion works
58:16 Compassion vs empathy
01:04:54 Lojong teachings and the Tibetan Tonglen practice
01:10:35 We are lost in “maya”, we forget there is something beyond ourselves
Reading references:
* The Miracle of Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh
* Mindfulness for Beginners by Jon Kabat-Zinn
* Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras by Swami Vivekananda
* Start Where Your Are: How to Accept Yourself and Others by Pema Chodron
* The Great Path of Awakening: The Classic Guide to Lojong, a Tibetan Buddhist Practice for Cultivating the Heart of Compassion by Jamgon Kongtrul, translated by Ken McLeod
* Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism by Chögyam Trungpa (wrongly credited in the audio)
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Listen in to conversations that "swish" or shift your perspective! Journalist and Mindset Coach Anuradha Varma interviews a diverse cast of people who share their expertise and experiences on a range…
of themes, across spirituality, inclusivity, entrepreneurship, mythology, and popular culture. Follow and share to stay updated and grow the conversation.
Anuradha is a journalist with nearly three decades of experience, having worked for media houses such as The Indian Express, The Times of India, and The Pioneer. She is also an internationally certified Mindset Coach with expertise in Mindfulness, EFT and NLP.
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Anuradha is a journalist with nearly three decades of experience, having worked for media houses such as The Indian Express, The Times of India, and The Pioneer. She is also an internationally certified Mindset Coach with expertise in Mindfulness, EFT and NLP.
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