On this first episode of Into It, Elle is joined by poet and editor S. Whitney Holmes, to talk about the 1990 TV miniseries of Stephen King's It. Along the way they get into childhood stories, why Whitney was blacklisted from slumber parties, hetero dudes sharing bicycles, Elle's affection for clowns, and the dark bitter truth at the heart of all this melodrama.

On this first episode of Into It, Elle is joined by poet and editor S. Whitney Holmes, to talk about the 1990 TV miniseries of Stephen King's It. Along the way they get into childhood stories, why Whitney was blacklisted from slumber parties, hetero dudes sharing bicycles, Elle's affection for clowns, and the dark bitter truth at the heart of all this melodrama.