Summary

The conversation starts with casual banter about their outfits and favorite bands. They discuss their love for System of a Down and reminisce about their favorite songs. The conversation then shifts to the topic of musicians' political views and how fans may feel conflicted when their favorite artists have different political beliefs. They share personal experiences of enjoying music from artists with opposing political views and discuss the separation of art and politics. The conversation explores the topic of separating art from the artist and the challenges it presents. The hosts discuss various examples, including Michael Jackson, R. Kelly, Maynard James Keenan of Tool, and the band Surfer Blood. They share their personal experiences and dilemmas in continuing to listen to music by artists with problematic actions. The conversation also touches on the concept of forgiveness and the role of social media in shaping public opinion. Ultimately, they emphasize the personal nature of the decision to continue or stop listening to an artist.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter 03:04 Conflicting Political Views of Artists 06:30 Separation of Art and Politics 08:44 Personal Experiences and Perspectives 24:17 Introduction: Myles Copeland Jr. and IRS Records 27:33 Personal Experiences: Continuing to Listen or Stopping 33:24 The Role of Forgiveness and Personal Growth 36:22 The Influence of Social Media on Public Opinion 45:17 The Communal Nature of Art: Evolving Meanings