In this episode, Dr Sharon Bond talks with Shila Rashid about her early years, key influences, her emergent political awareness and the synergy between systemic thinking and politics for living and working as a Black woman in London, the importance of resiliance, and why she set up Chi-Ron systemic training institute.

Chiron Training

Systemic Lives
Murmurations. Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice
Everything is Connected Press

Watch the video versions of Systemic Lives interviews on the Systemic Practice YouTube Channel. 

This podcast is part of the Systemic Lives series hosted by Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice and Everything is Connected Press CIC. 

Welcome to key social constructionist contributor, Sheila McNamee talking with Shila Rashid. Listen in to Sheila reflecting with Shila on her family, early influences and how her life in social construction unfolded.

Taos Institute
Sheila’s Academia Page
Sheila’s Researchgate page


Systemic Lives
Murmurations. Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice
Everything is Connected Press

Watch the video versions of Systemic Lives interviews on the Systemic Practice YouTube Channel. 

This podcast is part of the Systemic Lives series hosted by Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice and Everything is Connected Press CIC. 

Imelda McCarthy talks with Shila Rashid about her life growing up in Ireland, becoming part of an international wave of Milan systemic therapy, creating an Irish approach through The Fifth Province and putting class, culture, and poverty of the systemic map.

Imelda McCarthy papers
Imelda McCarthy Festschrift

Systemic Lives
Murmurations. Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice
Everything is Connected Press

Watch the video versions of Systemic Lives interviews on the Systemic Practice YouTube Channel. 

This podcast is part of the Systemic Lives series hosted by Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice and Everything is Connected Press CIC. 

Systemic therapist, researcher and activist, Charlotte Burck talks with Gail Simon about her early life, family and cultural influences, how her career unfolded with her journey into systemic therapy and more recently, documentary.

Charlotte’s Researchgate page
Charlotte’s documentaries

Systemic Lives
Murmurations. Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice
Everything is Connected Press

Watch the video versions of Systemic Lives interviews on the Systemic Practice YouTube Channel. 

This podcast is part of the Systemic Lives series hosted by Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice and Everything is Connected Press CIC. 

Harlene Anderson speaks with Gail Simon about her childhood in Texas, about her family, their vision and her move into psychology and family therapy. The rest is herstory! Listen on...

Harlene Anderson’s website
International Journal of Collaborative-Dialogic Practices
Houston Galveston Institute
Taos Institute


Systemic Lives
Murmurations. Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice
Everything is Connected Press

Watch the video versions of Systemic Lives interviews on the Systemic Practice YouTube Channel. 

This podcast is part of the Systemic Lives series hosted by Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice and Everything is Connected Press CIC. 

Laura Fruggeri reflects with Gail Simon on her upbringing in a politicised family, in an Italy that was attuned to both workers' rights and challenging mainstream psychiatry. She describes the development of systemic therapy as arising in response to both of these influences and the coherence with her own
socio-psychologica analysis.

Centro Bolognese di Terapia della Famiglia
Laura’s Researchgate page

Systemic Lives
Murmurations. Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice
Everything is Connected Press

Watch the video versions of Systemic Lives interviews on the Systemic Practice YouTube Channel. 

This podcast is part of the Systemic Lives series hosted by Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice and Everything is Connected Press CIC. 

Monica McGoldrick talks with Gail Simon about early influences from her family and the many colleagues with whom she pioneered work with families.

Monica McGoldrick Researchgate page
The Multicultural Family Institute

Systemic Lives
Murmurations. Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice
Everything is Connected Press

Watch the video versions of Systemic Lives interviews on the Systemic Practice YouTube Channel. 

This podcast is part of the Systemic Lives series hosted by Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice and Everything is Connected Press CIC. 

Welcome to the Systemic Lives talks with leading contributors to the systemic field talking with systemic therapists Shila Rashid or Gail Simon. 

Watch the video versions of Systemic Lives interviews on the Systemic Practice YouTube Channel. 

This podcast is part of the Systemic Lives series hosted by Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice and Everything is Connected Press CIC.