Today’s Talmud pages, Nazir 20 and 21, talks about the building blocks of communication. The Unorthodox hosts join Liel in conversation with divinity student SueAnn Shiah about her road towards religion and a deeper understanding of herself. How does a Taiwanese, Queer musician and filmmaker find her way to divinity school? Listen and find out.

Take One is a Tablet Studios production. The show is hosted by Liel Leibovitz, and is produced and edited by Darone Ruskay, Quinn Waller and Elie Bleier. Our team also includes Stephanie Butnick, Josh Kross, Mark Oppenheimer, Robert Scaramuccia, and Tanya Singer. 

Click here to listen to SueAnn Shiah’s album.

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