Sean and Seth discuss their role in the midst of the American Evangelical Church, why Black Lives Matter more than the 2nd Ammendment, and why people have value.

Intro: If - Pulley

Outro: Grammatology - Adjy

• 00:00 Introductions 
• 01:35 Explanation of the Ditch
• 05:35 American Evangelicalism's lost identity
• 06:44 Seth, a different kind of Pastor
• 11:30 Sean doesn't vote
• 19:10 Viewing people as equals
• 20:30 Viewing people as non-equals
• 22:30 Seth on marching with Black Lives Matter
• 29:36 We don't know everything
• 31:22 You don't know everything!
• 34:27 There is no way to talk freely, cops are jerks
• 41:34 Sean is a racist (but doesn't want to be)