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  • AI x Law x Digital Publishing with Lawyer and Scholar, Jake Okechukwu Effoduh

    Discussions of AI are everywhere today; it’s the culture in which we’re all currently swimming (sometimes drowning!). But today’s guest is the best of the best as it relates to the intersection of AI, the law, and digital publishing. He offers fresh perspectives, clarity, and precision that is like throwing us life preservers and allowing us to catch our breaths. If you listen to no other Talk Paper Scissors episode this year, please have a listen to this one.

    Jake Okechukwu Effoduh is an Assistant Professor at the Lincoln Alexander School of Law. His research focuses on the intersections of AI, human rights, and international law. He has contributed to a broad range of AI policy development in several countries, including Canada, the United States, Brazil, Kenya, South Africa, China and Nigeria. Jake has held fellowships at Harvard Law School, Harvard Kennedy School, Carnegie Mellon University, the University of Ottawa, and the University of Cape Town. He is a UNESCO Expert on AI and the Rule of Law, providing training to judges, law teachers and legal officers on the use of AI in legal and judicial contexts. 

    In this conversation you’ll hear about Jake’s work surrounding technology, algorithmic bias, discrimination, and how we can rethink about the future of technology. We talk friction, we talk trust as the new currency, accountability, why we might need a new Internet, and how creativity can help us imagine new futures.

    Jake helps us unravel and reimagine the definition of creativity in a time of AI and why AI systems (as they exist today), really can’t be creative. (Phew!) He also shares what a fair relationship between creatives and AI companies could look like. Jake helps us better understand what AI is doing to us as human beings, and he shares what he’s optimistic about and less optimistic about. 

    Come with us on a journey as Jake helps us disentangle some of the complexities surrounding AI, the law, and digital publishing This is a recording in Digital Publishing at The Creative School at Toronto Metropolitan University in summer 2026.

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    58 min
  • OoO @ DesignThinkers Vancouver 2026

    Happy summer everyone! This marks the final episode of Talk Paper Scissors before I head on my summer/social media sabbatical until September.

    Today’s episode contains a compilation of voices from DesignThinkers Vancouver from May 2026. The theme of this year’s DesignThinkers conferences is ‘Out of Office’ and I asked conference attendees their favourite out off office reset, as well as their favourite places to disappear when they’re out of office. Voices featured in today’s episode include: Elana Rudick, James Nguyen, Joanne Chang, Rain Senra-Francois, Tessa Laity, Chelsea Bell Eady, Raph Maturine, Helena de Aguiar, Elyssa Schmid, Patrick Brown, and Hilary Ashworth.

    As I head Out of Office myself this summer season, I’ll be doing my best to reset with friends, family, and food, as well as intentionally focus on slowing down, doing one thing at a time, and sinking into contentment. 

    Until we meet again in the fall…

     Let's Connect on the web or via Instagram. :)



    18 min
  • Iconic Publishing Brands in Digital Spaces with Nicola Ryan of Condé Nast

    We’re having conversations with magazine-makers— big and small, new and seasoned, independent and commercial—from all over the world, who are sharing what they do and how they do it. This year’s line up includes folks making magazines for kids, art and culture, as well as luxury lifestyle magazines, and a massive global publisher who covers all of this and more. There’s something for everyone in these 4 episodes.

    This episode features Nicola Ryan, Vice President of Product Design at Condé Nast.

    In this conversation, you’ll hear about Nicola’s career path into her current role at Condé Nast. Nicola shares how she thinks about designing for scale across so many publishing brands, including a toolkit that has drastically reduced the time it takes to reimagine visual design changes for brands like Wired and Architectural Digest, including how she helps brands balance consistent processes and experimentation. You’ll hear the specific ways Nicola and her team are thinking about and thoughtfully integrating AI in their creative workflow. We talk about boredom, critique, and the importance of trust building as a creative leader.

    This episode was recorded as part of a guest lecture series in DG 8111 Digital Publishing in the Master of Digital Media Program in Spring 2026 at The Creative School at Toronto Metropolitan University.

     Let's Connect on the web or via Instagram. :)



    42 min
  • Building Trust Across Print and Digital with Ojus Jain of Esses Magazine (Formula 1)

    We’re having conversations with magazine-makers— big and small, new and seasoned, independent and commercial—from all over the world, who are sharing what they do and how they do it. This year’s line up includes folks making magazines for kids, art and culture, as well as luxury lifestyle magazines, and a massive global publisher who covers all of this and more. There’s something for everyone in these 4 episodes.

    This episode features Ojus Jain, Founder of Esses, a new publication celebrating global culture and motorsports. 

    In this conversation, you’ll hear how Esses fits into the media landscape for current and future F1 fans. In an expansive and fractured media landscape, you’ll hear how Ojus and his team decide the right balance of content, tools, and platforms that help support the brand, including why print is central to their strategy of building trust, including how they extend that trust into digital publishing.

    You’ll hear why building a strong team is critical, even in an age where tools allow us to do more of the process ourselves, and why job titles matter less than you might think in a start up. Ojus shares his insider take on what’s possible in independent publishing, how he’s thinking about AI, and how the Esses team is creating a financially-sustainable media brand through partnerships, events, and subscriptions. 

    This episode was recorded as part of a guest lecture series in DG 8111 Digital Publishing in Spring 2026 at The Creative School at Toronto Metropolitan University.

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    44 min
  • Launching a New Magazine with Krupa Patel of TURMERIC Magazine

    Welcome Magazine Makers!

    We’re having conversations with magazine-makers— big and small, new and seasoned, independent and commercial—from all over the world, who are sharing what they do and how they do it. This year’s line up includes folks making magazines for kids, art and culture, as well as luxury lifestyle magazines, and a massive global publisher who covers all of this and more. There’s something for everyone in these 4 episodes.

    This episode features Krupa Patel, a Toronto and Ahmedabad-based independent magazine maker, founder and editor-in-chief of TURMERIC Magazine—an independent print publication documenting emerging artists, spatial practices, and contemporary culture through a lens of storytelling from the Indian subcontinent and it’s diaspora.

    With no formal graphic design or publishing education, you’ll hear how Krupa navigated editorial, design, printing, and global distribution steered by 3 words: fun, quirky, and contemporary. Krupa looks backward, sharing what she would do differently if she started again, as well as looks forward, sharing how she plans to evolve the magazine for issue 02 and beyond. Finally, you’ll hear why knowing your niche may be the key that unlocks your magazine making journey. This episode is action-packed with fantastic advice for all new magazine makers. 

    TURMERIC Issue 01 launch party TONIGHT at Issues in Toronto!

    📍 ISSUES Magazine Shop, 1489 Dundas St W, Toronto, ON M6K 1T6
     🗓 Thursday, June 25
     ⏰ 6–9 PM

     Let's Connect on the web or via Instagram. :)



    42 min
  • Designing Reading Experiences for Children with Caroline Versteeg of Owl Kids

    It’s magazine time! 

    Welcome to conversations with magazine-makers— big and small, new and seasoned, independent and commercial—from all over the world sharing what they do and how they do it. This year’s line up includes folks making magazines for kids, art and culture, as well as luxury lifestyle magazines, and a massive global publisher who covers all of this and more. There’s something for everyone in the next 4 episodes.

    This first episode features Caroline Versteeg, a Toronto based Art Director, Designer and Artist who brings content to life at Chickadee Magazine at Owl Kids. In this conversation you’ll hear the typical process from start to finish for Chickadee magazine, as well as specific design decisions Caroline considers for their audience of children, intentional typographic choices for early readers, and why print is still so important for kids. You’ll hear how the team at Owl Kids finds new contributors for their publications and Caroline shares great advice for students wanting to work in the world of children’s publishing. 

     Let's Connect on the web or via Instagram. :)



    35 min
  • The Library Loiterers — Vol. III: The Zine Scene with Izy Iannetta at Toronto Zine Library

    Welcome, dear friends, to The Library Loiterers.

    Each episode finds Diana loitering in a library with a special guest in a library location of their choosing. We comb the stacks and have a chat about passions, practices, and possibilities—letting the story unfold as it will. You’re encouraged to read between the lines because it’s going to be a real page turner… 

    This episode features local creative strategist, performer, and published poet, Izy Iannetta, as the duo explore the Toronto Zine Library. Each new zine shows the possibilities and boundless creativity in this delightful publishing format.

     Let's Connect on the web or via Instagram. :)



    32 min
  • How to Be a Design Student (and How to Teach Them) with Mitch Goldstein

    Design students and design educators — this episode is for YOU! We have Mitch Goldstein, educator and author of How to Be a Design Student (and How to Teach Them), here to share some powerful thoughts and actionable advice.

    In this conversation, you’ll hear Mitch’s approach to being “professionally curious” and the difference between “education” and “professional practice”. We dig into grading, what design education does well and what parts of the system needs improvement. We talk phones, distraction, and the power of working with materials and analog technologies in the context of digital media. We also dive into Mitch’s book How to Be a Design Student (and How to Teach Them), specifically what Mitch hopes everyone will learn about ownership and agency, critique, and engagement. Mitch also shares his artistic practice and all that entails. 

     Let's Connect on the web or via Instagram. :)



    56 min
  • “Copy, Podcast joy”: NASA’s Artemis II Digital Strategy with Thalia Patrinos

    Today’s conversation is out of this world with Thalia Patrinos who works at NASA Headquarters in Washington, DC. She is the Artemis Digital Lead within the Office of Communications. She leads and strategizes all digital communications about NASA’s Artemis missions to and around the Moon, including social media, video, audio, web presence, and digital engagements.

    In this conversation, you’ll hear Thalia talk about the years of work that goes into digital strategy for communicating a mission around the moon, balancing planning and flexibility to capture spontaneous moments of moon joy. She talks about the spreadsheets—the spreadsheets!—including how she uses technology to help with creative strategy. You’ll hear the ways that NASA prioritizes publishing factual information above all else, and get a better sense of who is behind the content and how these teams work together. Thalia takes us into her thinking when addressing multiple audiences across multiple platforms when the whole world is watching and what success looks like for a project of this magnitude. Finally, Thalia lets us in on her career backstory including how she ended up at NASA and the funny and relatable story about her first job interview.

    This episode was recorded as part of a guest lecture series in DG 8111 Digital Publishing in Spring 2026 at The Creative School at Toronto Metropolitan University.

    “Copy, Podcast joy.”

     Let's Connect on the web or via Instagram. :)



    45 min
  • The Library Loiterers - Vol. II: Compositions, Classification, and Card Catalogs with Carl Shura at Toronto Reference Library

    Welcome, dear friends, to The Library Loiterers.

    Each episode finds Diana loitering in a library with a special guest in a library location of their choosing. We comb the stacks and have a chat about passions, practices, and possibilities—letting the story unfold as it will. You’re encouraged to read between the lines because it’s going to be a real page turner… 

    This episode features type geek and delightful human, Carl Shura, as the duo explores the Toronto Reference Library. Each floor takes us into the past, present, and future of what it means to love type, the sharing economy, and community spaces.

     Let's Connect on the web or via Instagram. :)



    44 min

About Talk Paper Scissors

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Join host, Diana Varma, as she explores the wonderful world of design and printing, typography and branding, books and publishing. Diana loves nothing more than getting creative with Creatives…

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