Everything from Matt Pailes to Basquiat is stuffed into this episode which I would categorize more of two old bro's catching up. I had such a good time talkin' with Mat about things like living with Drehobl and Upson, being there for Duffy's Plan B hammers, Bruna Da Silva and the Playground, the Slap 'Angel' graphic, the huge Matt Field influence, his skate company 'The Otherness', Robert Rauschenberg, living in Portland and much much more. Big love to Mat, he doesn't do these type of things often and it was truly an honor for me to have his time and mind for over two hours. Next on my list, Barker Barrett...

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